Yes.
To Mr. Fossen, can you tell me a little bit about your operation? We always think, because I'm from the land of coasts, that we can't make money in beef. My family's into beef and they're just ready to give it up. It's a mixed farm, so their costs are lower than some other beef farmers. We think everybody out west must be making money on beef because we're not making it.
So what do you see in the beef industry? On the retail side, the prices are still up. Do you think there's a bigger gouging between what the ranchers and farmers are getting, between them and the other end? Is that spread getting more and more? Is that part of the problem here?