I again have to say that we need to make sure, when it does come to beginning farmers, that they have to be able to come up with a little bit of input into what their reference margins are. Somebody in my area, say, is dealing with different realities from somebody in eastern Ontario or Alberta. And this is where I think I can understand where Steve's coming from; when it comes to support and programming, we need to look at it more from a provincial standpoint. It's just the big overarching things that we need to look at on a national level.
I agree fully with Marie-Anne that one of the things we need to look at, when it comes to the environmental issue and that sort of thing, is that the farmer seems to be the one putting in the money, but it's the public who are gaining from it. That's wrong. So when we come up with environmental programs, etc., we have to make sure that the people who are doing the work are getting rewarded instead of the people who are benefiting from it.