Evidence of meeting #24 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was farm.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Art Lange  Farm Financial Consultant, Alberta Ag Business Consultants
Owen Nelsen  Farm Financial Consultant, Alberta Ag Business Consultants
Cherilyn Nagel  As an Individual
David Nagel  As an Individual
Matt Sawyer  As an Individual

May 31st, 2010 / 4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

May I call you Cherilyn?

4:30 p.m.

As an Individual

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

All right. Thank you.

Thanks, everyone, for appearing today. We appreciate the time you've given to us. It's important. It's valuable for us to understand better the nature of the industry and its status.

I have to admit that what I've heard from you today is considerably different from what we heard going across Canada--not from all, but certainly from a majority of the witnesses who have been before us.

I'm just wondering, Cherilyn, how many acres do you and David farm?

4:30 p.m.

As an Individual

Cherilyn Nagel

We farm 12,000 acres.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

And which generation did you say you were?

4:30 p.m.

As an Individual

Cherilyn Nagel

We're both fifth generation.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

I heard you mention David's family. Your parents had this farm before you?

4:30 p.m.

As an Individual

David Nagel

Yes, my parents were--

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Are they still the owners of the farm?

4:30 p.m.

As an Individual

David Nagel

They're part owners.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

And you have a brother, you said, who you're hoping will come back.

4:30 p.m.

As an Individual

David Nagel

Yes, I have a younger brother who actively farms with us as well.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Are there any other members of the family?

4:35 p.m.

As an Individual

Cherilyn Nagel

Yes, we have a non-farming sister.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

And how about you, Cherilyn? Do you come from a farm background?

4:35 p.m.

As an Individual

Cherilyn Nagel

Yes. My family also had their Century Farm Family Award, and my brother is farming with my parents, about 25 miles south of us.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

David, your family owns the farm or were part owners. Given the size of the operation and the time they've had, would you say they've accumulated a reasonable amount of money on which to retire, and they're not relying on you to have to buy them out?

4:35 p.m.

As an Individual

David Nagel

No. They are relying on us to buy them out.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Okay. To what extent?

4:35 p.m.

As an Individual

David Nagel

It's pretty well for the full retirement.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Have you sought out strategies to do that?

4:35 p.m.

As an Individual

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Are you finding the tax laws and the strategies that exist now adequate to ease the transition?

4:35 p.m.

As an Individual

David Nagel

I wouldn't say they're adequate. Definitely the capital gains exemption going to $750,000 was a help. I think there could be a little more done to help ease that.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

How many thousand acres are there?