One other comment, on the transportation file, is that when we talk about competitiveness and stuff like that...I know Mr. Storseth has been talking about the different rail cars. We have Mr. Dinning now as part of the process. How do you see the process moving forward?
Maybe I'll go to Mr. Phillips again. Do you see that process actually starting to...? Mr. Dinning has just been hired, and it's taken a while to get someone hired in that position. How do you see that? Are your organizations interacting with him?