Changing the transportation system is a slow process. I think you have to talk about innovative ways of combining other technologies with transportation. My colleague Tim Durance has that company EnWave, which is a vacuum microwave facility. They dry down the product so that you're not shipping water; instead, you're shipping a very high-quality freeze-dried product. I think that will give you access to markets. We need to invest in those kinds of companies
On February 6th, 2012. See this statement in context.