Specifically in the layer sector, what happened in Europe was the science got subjugated to the emotion and it went directly from the activists into the political process. Legislation was passed throughout the European Union starting in countries like Holland and migrating to Germany, Austria and others and then gradually they moved it to this cage ban. It would take me a long time to articulate the turmoil that happened because it wasn't, as Robin, Jackie and Edouard have all said, a systematic organized structure that involved reviewing the science, having a group like NFACC work together, working with industry, and working as a partnership to move it ahead. They went at it, and it was a rodeo, and not a good one like the Calgary Stampede.
On May 28th, 2013. See this statement in context.