Evidence of meeting #126 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was communities.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Tom Rosser  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Brian Gray  Champion, Indigenous Network Circle and Assistant Deputy Minister, Science and Technology Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Mervin Traverse  Departmental Elder, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Jane Taylor  Assistant Deputy Minister, Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Bev Shipley  Lambton—Kent—Middlesex, CPC
Michel Gros Louis  Director, Agricultural Society for Indigenous Food Products
Vincent Lévesque  Founder, Agricultural Society for Indigenous Food Products
Jackoline Milne  President, Northern Farm Training Institute

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

Thank you, Ms. Milne. Unfortunately, I have to cut you off again.

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Liberal

Pierre Breton Liberal Shefford, QC

Thank you very much.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

Thank you, Mr. Breton.

Mr. Poissant, you have just a few minutes, because we need five minutes for committee business.

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Liberal

Jean-Claude Poissant Liberal La Prairie, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Kahnawake is in my riding, La Prairie. How did we go from a thousand indigenous farmers to just five or six?

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Director, Agricultural Society for Indigenous Food Products

Michel Gros Louis

That, too, is a good question.

There is no doubt that the appetite was there. It was a matter of assistance. Indigenous farming suffered the effects of residential schools, acculturation and oppression. We didn't have anyone advocating for us to seek out assistance or government programs. It's an issue that would certainly make for a good study.

The fact remains: in 1910, there were more than a thousand indigenous farmers, and today, there are just five or six. It's not due to a lack of interest, on the contrary. Recently, some traditional lands have been reclaimed. Young families are extremely keen to be farmers, even squatting on land to do so, without an agreement with the band council. It's on a small scale, but they are trying to make it.

Figuring out whether it involves Indian or non-Indian governance is problematic, not to mention what people think. There's a huge appetite, but it's really tough to answer such a complex question in two minutes.

Nevertheless, the facts are the facts. It doesn't make sense that the Odanak Abenakis had more than 2,000 cattle at the beginning of the last century, but have none today. The reason isn't that they don't want to farm. The story is more or less the same in Kanesatake and all over the place.

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Liberal

Jean-Claude Poissant Liberal La Prairie, QC

I have one last question.

The UPA came up earlier. I was a member for 20 years.

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Director, Agricultural Society for Indigenous Food Products

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Liberal

Jean-Claude Poissant Liberal La Prairie, QC

I know that, when organizations or producers approach the UPA, they are often allowed to join. I don't know whether your organization has enough indigenous producers. Show the UPA your product.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

Mr. Poissant, we're out of time.

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Liberal

Jean-Claude Poissant Liberal La Prairie, QC

I just want to tell you that those at the UPA are open to hearing what people have to say.

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Director, Agricultural Society for Indigenous Food Products

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

Unfortunately, that's all the time we have.

Thank you all for your passion and your vision of agriculture.

We will take a one-minute break and resume in camera to discuss committee business.

I would now ask the witnesses to take their leave as quickly as possible.

Thank you.

[Proceedings continue in camera ]