Evidence of meeting #139 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was know.

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France Pégeot  Executive Vice-President, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Annette Gibbons  Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

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Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

But…

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Liberal

Marie-Claude Bibeau Liberal Compton—Stanstead, QC

…the international trading system.

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Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Actually, Madam Minister, that doesn’t seem to be working, unfortunately. The losses have now been going on for two months. The Canola Council of Canada estimates that the losses may reach up to $1 billion for Canadian canola producers. We sense no urgency on the part of your government to settle this crisis. You talk about committee meetings, consultations and legal rules. But has anyone in the government at least bothered to call China’s ambassador here in Canada to try and get some diplomatic discussions started?

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Liberal

Marie-Claude Bibeau Liberal Compton—Stanstead, QC

There have been discussions at various levels.

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Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

With the Chinese ambassador?

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Liberal

Marie-Claude Bibeau Liberal Compton—Stanstead, QC

As you know, Minister Freeland is responsible for diplomatic relations. As Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food, my priority is to defend production—

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Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Has anyone else in the government—

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Liberal

Marie-Claude Bibeau Liberal Compton—Stanstead, QC

Yes, sir?

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Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

—talked to the Chinese ambassador about the canola crisis?

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Liberal

Marie-Claude Bibeau Liberal Compton—Stanstead, QC

There have been discussions at various levels. I'm not in a position to confirm exactly who it was or when it happened, but what I'm telling you—

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Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

So in your working group, you don't tell each other what you are each doing. The Minister of International Trade Diversification and the Minister of Foreign Affairs do things, but the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food, who is responsible for production, farmers and markets, is not aware. She doesn't know what Ms. Freeland is doing.

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Liberal

Marie-Claude Bibeau Liberal Compton—Stanstead, QC

Yes.

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Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

She doesn't know who Ms. Freeland is talking to.

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Liberal

Marie-Claude Bibeau Liberal Compton—Stanstead, QC

Mr. Berthold, I work very well with Ms. Freeland. You asked the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food to appear before you. I'm telling you that my—

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Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

We also asked Ms. Freeland to appear before us. Do you think she should?

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Liberal

Marie-Claude Bibeau Liberal Compton—Stanstead, QC

The Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food is the one before you. I'm telling you that my mandate is to defend our Canadian producers and products. That's what I'm doing. I have an obligation to defend the quality of our Canadian canola, and I do so with all the determination in the world.

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Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Do you believe China's claims?

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Liberal

Marie-Claude Bibeau Liberal Compton—Stanstead, QC

I also have a duty to ensure that our inspection system remains robust. It's truly a fundamental issue, and our farmers understand that very well.

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Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Do you believe China's claims about the quality of Canadian canola?

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Liberal

Marie-Claude Bibeau Liberal Compton—Stanstead, QC

I have asked for evidence. I still haven't received any. This canola shipment was inspected before and after, and there was no evidence that it did not meet Chinese requirements.

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Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

So—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

Thank you, Mr. Berthold.

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Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

That's too bad.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

Mr. Longfield, you have the floor for six minutes.

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Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you and welcome to our committee.

We continue the discussion this committee has had on canola, and I know that shortly you'll be receiving a letter that we're putting in through the chair to discuss some of the issues we've talked about this morning, so I'll leave that to the letter. Your response coming back to us will be anticipated, and we'll be very interested to see how that goes.

I'm really interested also in the food policy. We did an in-depth study that could have been a best seller in Guelph. We had professors who were using our study in the classrooms. Some came to me with dog-eared copies with notes all over them. Guelph is now asking me, “We have a budget of $134 million, when can we see that report?” Do you have a timeline on when we'll be able to see the food policy so that we can have further discussions in Guelph?