My first surprise was that it worked. We didn't know that. That's the kind of thing you hope for. In fact, the growth hormone one was part of the best experiment I ever did. We got results in one year. Normally, I'm looking at years and years of rather straightforward stuff, so that was the first surprise.
In the beginning there wasn't.... When we were doing the antifreeze, there wasn't.... Nobody complained. In fact, the university touted it, and the region was dipping into gene transfer. It was the same with the Atlantic provinces. When I gave talks—I am an academic, so that's the kind of talks I would be giving—there wasn't any there.
In my view, a lot of this happened in the 1990s, with the handling of the mad cow disease in Britain, when the public became aware that the government might not be completely honest with the public. That's when.... The surprise was that suddenly there was a backlash from people who were concerned.