Thank you both for your presentations.
I know, when you talk in terms of labour shortages, that urban people don't want to get into farming. I don't find that problem in my riding; I actually find a different problem. There is a great deal of interest among young people in becoming organic farmers. They see two big obstacles. One is access to land, and two is access to credit to allow them to get started.
So I guess I'm going to ask my questions to Canadian Organic Growers. What can we do in the strategy to tackle that problem? I see lots of young people who are frustrated in not being able to become small producers in the kind of model that we've had in the past.