That's a very, very good question, Mr. Ellis. It really varies from year to year. What we do is we plan our farm for positive results. We do everything we can. Then things come our way that destroy that positive cash flow and create a loss. Again, COVID has done that.
To answer your question in terms of the average, I'd go back to Mr. Ahrens' comments with regard to our sector. We have farrow-to-finish producers who send animals to marketplace. We also have integrated models that own processing plants where they would not have the level of hurt that we would have. The profit-loss scenario would be different. Right now, the independent pork producer across Canada is on an island, and has very little protection, if any, in the situation.
This is a little bit off topic, but I would like to address the comment that was made with regard to AgriInvest. Pork producers don't use it as a pension plan. I talked with one producer not long ago. He said he had a little bit of money—it's gone now—in his account, and it was basically his last lifeline. If he has five employees and he's at the end of his rope, he has to employ those employees to the very end, because if they leave, who will look after all the animals?
I would like to defend the position that it is not a pension plan for the pork sector. If it is for other sectors, I can fully respect and understand that point of view, but for us, it's our last lifeline. That lifeline is fast eroding.
Mr. Ellis, I hope I answered your question. I deviated somewhat from it, but I wanted to get that point across.