They are two different discussions, and one is about the market conditions and transparencies we heard earlier. The other piece goes back to market conditions in open production and trade.
I think the reality comes back to this. If you are selling into the regulated model and you are a part of the growing community that is paying into that model, you are functioning in a very successful production base. Within the other side of the production industry in fresh fruit and veg, where you are growing for the fresh industry, you have product that could funnel into the processing chain that could build that gap in volume that Ms. Rood mentioned. All of a sudden you are excluded, and you have difficulty in finding channels for that product in the processing, so the opportunity gap exists. It really looks at how you improve that channel for supporting those processed veg producers who may be able to leverage the fresh industry that has excess product.