Evidence of meeting #6 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was capacity.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Theresa Iuliano  Vice-President, Operations, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Frédéric Seppey  Assistant Deputy Minister, Market and Industry Services Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Sheryl Groeneweg  Director General, Manufacturing and Life Sciences Branch, Department of Industry
Tammy Switucha  Executive Director, Food Safety and Consumer Protection Directorate, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Martin Scanlon  Dean, Faculty of Agricultural and Food Sciences, University of Manitoba, Deans Council - Agriculture, Food and Veterinary Medicine
Michael Graydon  Chief Executive Officer, Food, Health and Consumer Products of Canada
Jean-Sébastien Gascon  Director General, Boeuf Québec - Société des parcs d'engraissement du Québec

3:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

I call the meeting to order.

Welcome to the sixth meeting of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), and the motion adopted by the committee on October 24, the committee is commencing its study on processing capacity.

Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, pursuant to the order of the House adopted on September 23, 2020. Proceedings will be published on the House of Commons website.

For information purposes, the webcast will always show the person speaking rather than the entirety of the committee.

To ensure an orderly meeting, I would like to outline a few rules to follow. Members and witnesses may speak in the official language of their choice. You have the choice at the bottom of your screen of “floor”, “English” or “French”. Before speaking, please wait until I recognize you by name.

I remind you that all comments by members and witnesses should be addressed through the chair.

Please ensure that your mike is on mute when you are not speaking.

With that, we are ready to begin.

I would now like to welcome our witnesses.

For the first hour, from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, we have Theresa Iuliano and Tammy Switucha; from the Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food, we have Warren Goodlet, director general, research analysis directorate; Frédéric Seppey, assistant deputy minister, market and industry service branch and Marco Valicenti, director general, sector development and analysis directorate, market and industry services branch; and from the Department of Industry, Sheryl Groeneweg, director general, manufacturing and life sciences branch.

We'll start with Ms. Iuliano, for seven and a half minutes.

November 19th, 2020 / 3:35 p.m.

Theresa Iuliano Vice-President, Operations, Canadian Food Inspection Agency

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Frédéric Seppey is presenting opening remarks on behalf of all departments.

3:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

That's fine.

Mr. Seppey, the floor is yours.

3:35 p.m.

Frédéric Seppey Assistant Deputy Minister, Market and Industry Services Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

It's a great pleasure and honour for all of us to appear and have the opportunity to speak before this committee.

Before speaking to the current situation of the agri-food sector, let me start with a few facts on the importance of the food processing sector to the Canadian economy.

In 2019, the agri-food sector was a key contributor to the gross domestic product, employment and exports.

The food and beverage processing industry is the largest manufacturing sector in terms of GDP, representing 17% of manufacturing GDP and 290,000 employees.

The food industry is a major economic driver for rural communities, as it purchases about 40% of the total Canadian agriculture production.

Small and medium-sized enterprises account for over 95% of establishments, while large establishments account for about half the industry's total output.

Exports of processed food and beverage products stood at a record value of $38.1 billion in 2019. Globally, Canada is the eleventh largest exporter of processed food and beverage products in the world.

In total, Canadian-based processors supply about 70% of all processed food and beverages that Canadians consume every day.

The food and beverage processing industry performed relatively well over the recent five-year period. Specifically, I wish to give a sense of the results in terms of growth, trade and employment.

Industry revenues for the food processing sector increased at an average rate of 3.5% per year, compared to 2.3% per year for total manufacturing. In addition, employment increased by 2.9% per year, compared to 1.1% for total manufacturing. Finally, exports of processed food and beverage products grew at an average annual rate of 6.9% during the last five years, whereas growth was at 3.5% for total manufacturing.

Overall, the opportunities for the Canadian food processing industry are significant given the growing global demand for processed foods and beverages, as well as population and income growth in emerging markets. Our well-recognized food safety regulatory framework is a key positive attribute for our products in foreign markets.

There is no doubt that the current pandemic has caused an unprecedented shock to the whole food system as a result of significant changes in food demand.

I shall preface my upcoming comments on the impact of the pandemic with a word of caution. Any current assessment is no indication of how the situation can evolve in coming months.

To give you a sense of the dramatic shift in demand, between February and April 2020, food service sales declined by 57% , while food and beverage store sales increased by only 18%. Purchases at restaurants continue to lag pre-COVID-19 levels. In August, food service demand was at about at 80% of pre-pandemic levels. However, this is likely lower now with the recent restrictions in many regions of the country.

Purchases at grocery stores in October were at 8% above the pre-COVID-19 levels. As mentioned earlier, although the supply chain seems to have stabilized, we cannot take the resilience of the sector for granted. Extraordinary efforts were required to keep grocery store shelves stocked and food on the table. The system remains vulnerable as the COVID-19 pandemic continues to have an impact.

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the food processing industry experienced a number of challenges that resulted in new and significant cost pressures. For example, industry had to adapt to health protocols that required plant modifications, increased sanitation measures, and changes in manufacturing processes, often leading to reduced production.

To provide for increased worker safety, companies had to provide their employees with personal protective equipment. Further, labour costs rose significantly due to additional payments for overtime, hero pay and training. Other increased costs included higher transportation, packaging costs and increasing fees paid to retail for infrastructure development such as for e-commerce. Lastly, some companies faced lost revenue from food service without commensurate increases in retail sales, as well as increased cost for surplus inventory.

The total financial implications of COVID-19 on the food processing industry remain to be seen as statistical agencies, such as Statistics Canada, continue to gather information over time. However, it is clear that impacts throughout the industry have not been homogenous.

In response to COVID-19, the Government of Canada has implemented a number of food industry specific initiatives to ensure a safe, reliable food system. I will just mention three of those initiatives.

The government set up a $77.5 million emergency processing fund (EPF) to help companies implement changes to safeguard the health and safety of workers and their families, as well as to improve facilities needed to increase Canada's food supply capacity.

The government also set up a $50 million surplus food purchase program to help move surplus food commodities through the food system as efficiently as possible to help feed vulnerable Canadians.

Finally, there is the mandatory isolation support for temporary foreign worker program to support these workers who are absolutely essential not only for our horticultural industry, but also for our food processing sector. The $50 million fund helps cover some of the incremental costs associated with the mandatory 14-day isolation period imposed under the Quarantine Act.

I would also like to highlight the efforts of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) to preserve the integrity of Canada's food safety system. First, CFIA prioritized critically important activities and services during the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic by introducing a temporary suspension of low-risk activities that did not immediately impact the safety of food or the protection of our agricultural resources.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

I'm sorry to interrupt you, Mr. Seppey. My understanding is that you are going to be speaking on behalf of the three departments. Is that correct?

3:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Market and Industry Services Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Frédéric Seppey

Yes, Mr. Chair.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

Okay. I will give you some extra time, because each department has seven and a half minutes. You may continue, Mr. Seppey.

3:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Market and Industry Services Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Frédéric Seppey

That's very nice. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

The Agency is maintaining oversight of domestic production and imported food products while also supporting trade and the supply chain, including through the certification of exports.

The Agency also temporarily suspended certain non-food safety labelling requirements for foodservice products so that they can be quickly repurposed for retail sale. Also, in order to prevent meat shortages, the CFIA has been working with the provinces and territories to enable the interprovincial trade of meat produced in provincially regulated establishments. To assist in these efforts, the CFIA received an additional $20 million in funding to support its efforts. This will help the Agency continue its important work to safeguard Canada's food system and better support the production demands of Canada's food industry.

In conclusion, although COVID-19 has taken a financial toll on the food processing sector, given its agility and its resilience, the sector can play a major role in the economic recovery.

My colleagues and I are pleased to be with you today and to answer any questions you may have.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

As we look beyond COVID-19, we expect that there will be a greater emphasis on innovation in the food processing industry. Business spending on research and development is vital to ensure that Canada's food and beverage processing sector responds to shifts in consumer demand with globally competitive products and processes.

With continued support of Canadian innovators, we can capitalize on emerging technology areas and changing consumer demands and realize incredible growth opportunities in the food sector.

The Government of Canada is making targeted investments towards innovative companies in the value-added food processing sector through the strategic innovation fund or the innovation superclusters initiative.

To further strengthen this sector and realize these recommendations, the Government of Canada also awarded up to $30 million towards the Canadian Food Innovators Network, through the strategic innovation fund, for the development of a network that will accelerate innovation and collaboration specifically in the food processing sector.

With respect to investments, we continue to invest in industry to build capacity in the value-added food and beverage processing sector at the intersection between market opportunities and Canadian potential.

The Government of Canada's investment in the Protein Industries Canada supercluster, known as PIC, is an illustration of these efforts. Through the Innovation Canada supercluster program, the Government of Canada recognizes the potential of Canada's existing strength in areas such as pulses and the growing global demand for value-added plant-based foods.

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

Thank you, Mr. Seppey.

We will now start our questioning, and for the first round we have Ms. Lianne Rood for six minutes.

Go ahead, Ms. Rood.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Lianne Rood Conservative Lambton—Kent—Middlesex, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the witnesses for being here today.

Last week we heard, and have been hearing this all along from processor groups, a call for a grocery code of conduct in Canada. Industry has been buckling under the costs of COVID-19 for the last 10 months or so, and now we are seeing retailers adding arbitrary fees of up to 6% on processors and farmers while they're recording record profits.

Ms. Groeneweg, at what point will the Competition Bureau step up and address the abuse of market domination by grocery chains?

3:45 p.m.

Sheryl Groeneweg Director General, Manufacturing and Life Sciences Branch, Department of Industry

Thank you very much for that question.

I would just like to express that of course we share the concern about fair market practices, and departments are working together to ensure that Canada's food supply chair has the right conditions for all businesses to thrive. I would note that this topic will be discussed in an upcoming federal-provincial-territorial agricultural ministers meeting in order to involve the provinces and territories in ensuring the health of Canada's food supply chain.

With regard to the Competition Bureau, it is of course, as you know, an organization at arm's-length from the Department of Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada. As such, I cannot comment on priorities or practices within the Competition Bureau itself.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Lianne Rood Conservative Lambton—Kent—Middlesex, ON

Thank you very much.

Producers, and processors and others along the supply chain have had to, again, make significant investments to keep their workers safe. The processing sector has estimated that the additional cost to them has been about $800 million.

I'm just wondering why the processing fund was only set at $77.5 million, which is well short of the actual cost we have seen for processors to keep their employees safe.

3:45 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Market and Industry Services Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Frédéric Seppey

Mr. Chair, perhaps I can take this question from the member.

The decision was taken by the government and, therefore, is a question of policy that I, as a public servant, cannot provide an answer to. I can tell you that the program, since its inception, has received a number of applications. We have been assessing these applications in a thorough way. The funds continue to flow.

We are also working beyond the terms of the program. We are working with processors to ensure that they have all of the tools and advice they require to be able to adapt to, for example, the requirements of local public health authorities as well as the requirements from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Lianne Rood Conservative Lambton—Kent—Middlesex, ON

I'm going to turn over to the question of labour. We know right now, and I have heard from processors and farmers across the board, that labour is one of the biggest obstacles we face right now in this country in getting people to work and making sure that the positions are filled to keep our processors moving along and the factories open so that we can continue to have food in the supply chain.

The federal government's own Barton report tapped into agri-food as as one of the leading economic sectors in the country. How can we that claim agri-food is a priority and ignore labour, which is, again, the biggest issue?

Will your departments commit to developing a labour action plan for these sectors?

3:50 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Market and Industry Services Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Frédéric Seppey

As you may be aware, tomorrow will mark the first virtual session of the annual meeting of federal, provincial and territorial ministers of agriculture and agri-food.

The issue of labour is on the agenda for that meeting tomorrow. In fact, as the member pointed out, labour is a key issue for the agricultural sector as well as for the food processing sector. I believe you will hear later this afternoon from representatives from the Food, Health and Consumer Products of Canada. The number of labour vacancies in the processing sector is quite significant, with 28,000 jobs remaining vacant. When you compare that with the 290,000 jobs figure I indicated in my opening remarks, it is quite significant.

This is why we are working closely with our colleagues at Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada as well as Employment and Skills Development Canada, who lead on several of the labour issues. We're working closely with them and the provinces to make sure that we can do our utmost in addressing these very significant challenges in labour in the agriculture and agri-food sector, as the member pointed out.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

You have 13 seconds, Ms. Rood.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Lianne Rood Conservative Lambton—Kent—Middlesex, ON

That's fine, Mr. Chair. I'll pass on them, and save my questions for later.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

Thank you, Ms. Rood.

Mr. Drouin, you have six minutes.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

I want to thank all our colleagues who have taken the time to join and discuss food processing in Canada. Like us, you understand the importance and the fragility of this sector. I am sure that the COVID-19 pandemic has made that even more evident.

My first question is for Mr. Seppey.

Do we have some sort of overview of food processing in the country? Do we know whether it is enough or not enough? Is it diverse enough?

3:50 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Market and Industry Services Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Frédéric Seppey

Thank you for the excellent question, Mr. Drouin.

We are major agricultural producers in the world. In fact, we are the fifth largest exporter of agricultural and agri-food products in the world and the fifth largest importer. This shows that we have a very strong absorptive capacity. We import a great deal to meet our needs. However, as I mentioned in my opening statement, we have to keep in mind that a very large portion of Canadian demand for processed products is met by products made and processed in Canada.

In terms of processing capacity, it can vary from sector to sector. In sectors such as dairy processing, it is very strong in terms of our internal needs. The supply management system ensures that our capacity is high enough to process all the products we need. In other sectors, we have a significant comparative advantage on a global scale. I'm thinking of the meat processing sector, meaning meat products. Clearly, our production capacity is far greater than our needs in Canada. We export the vast majority of our products.

It is difficult to answer this question because of the heterogeneity of the sector. In some regions and for some sectors, the capacity may be insufficient but, given the way our market economy operates, it is up to market forces and businesses to determine where to invest to increase processing capacity.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

Thank you very much.

You have raised an excellent point in terms of whether market forces are there to meet market demand.

We have certainly noticed that some sectors may have been too centralized during the COVID-19 pandemic. Whether because of transportation or an outbreak in a factory, for example, difficulties ensued everywhere along with a delay in food processing.

I'd like to switch my questions to the director general for industry. There are some programs with the regional development agencies, and on a smaller scale, they'll fund smaller processors. Is there data you guys in Industry Canada are keeping on processors on a smaller scale?

3:55 p.m.

Director General, Manufacturing and Life Sciences Branch, Department of Industry

Sheryl Groeneweg

Yes, indeed. In fact, the Department of Innovation, Science and Economic Development has been quite active in this space over and above what the regional development agencies have been up to.

Since 2017, I can report that ISED has committed up to $203 million to support innovation in Canada's value-added food and beverage processing sector through two avenues: the strategic innovation fund and Innovation Canada's superclusters initiative. Mr. Seppey has already indicated such investments in that regard.

In 2018, as well, there was a Maple Leaf Foods project funded through SIF to build a world-class, value-added poultry processing plant facility in London, Ontario. The SIF funded $20 million toward a $744 million project, and that project is expected to create one of the most technologically advanced poultry plants in the world that will lead on food safety, environmental and animal welfare processes and technologies.

In 2018, we launched a competition under stream 4 of the SIF. It's a competition to spur on consortia coming together to bring different actors around the same ecosystem in such a way that smaller players across the country could interact with bigger players with research components of the ecosystem, and create value and, hopefully, garner new market share.

There were 55 different applicants to that process. Two victors came from that: the Canadian Agri-Food Automation and Intelligence Network and the Canadian Food Innovators Network.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan

Thank you, Mrs. Groeneweg. That is all the time we have.

Mr. Perron, you have the floor for six minutes.

3:55 p.m.

Bloc

Yves Perron Bloc Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Good afternoon.

My thanks to the witnesses for joining us.

I will continue along the same lines as my colleague Mr. Drouin's question. Decentralization was mentioned, but I will explore it a little further.

During the pandemic, we were told that we have a strong processing capacity in the meat industry, among others. That is good. However, we saw the dramatic effect that the closure of a plant due to the COVID-19 outbreak had on markets and upstream producers. We don't know what the situation will be in three, four or five years. We have to adapt and we have to adjust our system.

Has the department addressed this issue? How can we diversify the supply?

It could be another scenario, but if we are talking about the slaughter process, how do we make room for smaller players, for example?

4 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Market and Industry Services Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Frédéric Seppey

Thank you very much for the question.

You're probably talking about the closure of the Olymel plant in Yamachiche, which took place at the end of March. That plant processes 28,000 piglets every week, and it clearly plays a pivotal role in the entire hog processing chain.

In fact, when the processing assistance program was put in place, one of the priority sectors was actually meat processing. We knew that investments were needed in the area. For example, slaughter capacity had to be increased in order to deal with the delay in slaughtering animals.

The pork industry, as you probably know, operates like a pipeline. You have to be able to pasture the animals and feed them until you have the processing capacity. Otherwise, you have to do the slaughtering to take into account animal welfare. That's why the $77.5 million program placed particular emphasis and priority on applications from the meat processing sector.