Evidence of meeting #36 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was vote.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Can we look for unanimous consent?

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

Is it possible to get unanimous consent to override that? Why don't you explain that on the record?

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

We're masters of our own destiny.

4:50 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Philippe Méla

Yes, it would be basically to rescind the decision that the committee made on amendment LIB-2, so to speak, and, with unanimous consent, to do that through amendment CPC-2.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

Go ahead, Monsieur Perron.

4:50 p.m.

Bloc

Yves Perron Bloc Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

I wouldn't dare say I disagree with the legislative clerk.

However, based on my interpretation, the clause was partial in LIB‑2. So we said no to eight years for part of the act.

Right now, we're looking at a comprehensive provision that talks about 10 years. In terms of procedure, I may have missed something, but it seems to me that we could have the opportunity to propose eight years.

As a result of that discussion, we're still at the same point: we cannot propose eight years.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

I don't mean to speak for the legislative clerk, but what I've heard is both that we can get unanimous consent to do eight years and that we can do not eight years.

I do take your point, Mr. Perron, that it was specific to proposed subclause 2(1) and not necessarily to the rest, but I see Ms. Taylor Roy's point. I don't want to presume what might happen next, but I know there was a desire among my Liberal colleagues to reduce it from 10 years, so it might be something we could all resolve.

Ms. Taylor Roy, it's over to you.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

I have just a simple question. The clerk mentioned that it could be nine years. Could it be any number of years other than eight? Is eight the only number that's been precluded by amendment LIB-2?

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

If I may—and if I get it wrong, perhaps the legislative clerk can correct me—my understanding, Ms. Taylor Roy, is that it can be eight years so long as we have unanimous consent from this committee. The procedural element is that we did decide on subclause 2(1).

I think Mr. Perron raises an important point about the other provisions. I don't know if we have to go there, because I think we.... Well, we can see if we can get UC, but I see Mr. Barlow's hand.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

John Barlow Conservative Foothills, AB

We agreed on the eight years being part of that larger amendment CPC-2. My understanding from the legislative clerk when amendment LIB-2 was up was that we voted against that because that would have negated amendment CPC-2 and there were some other elements in amendment CPC-2 that we wanted to be there.

It wasn't that we were voting against the Liberal one to get the Conservative one. We're fine with eight years, so I would hope that we'd have unanimous consent to go to eight years and get this done.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

Okay.

Is there unanimous consent to essentially negate, as the clerk had suggested, the impact of the eight years and allow the provision to be struck from 10 years to eight years, as Mr. MacGregor is proposing?

(Subamendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

That is so passed.

Madam Clerk, with your help....

I mean, we do have unanimous consent. I guess I'll just ask for unanimous consent as it relates to Mr. MacGregor's subamendment to strike anywhere it says “10th anniversary” to “eighth anniversary”.

Is that correct?

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

That's correct.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

Do we have unanimous consent on that provision?

(Subamendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Great. We save ourselves a vote.

Are there any other proposed amendments? Are there any other conversations or hands? No. Okay.

I'll bring this back, then, to Mr. MacGregor's proposed CPC-2, as amended by both the provision from Mr. Perron that strikes “but may not be amended” and the approved amendment from Mr. MacGregor that moves any mention of “10th anniversary” to now say “eighth anniversary”.

I'll call the vote on that specific provision, Madam Clerk, if you could help me there.

4:50 p.m.

An hon. member

Is that on division?

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

Would you like to do that on division, colleagues? Is that fine?

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

John Barlow Conservative Foothills, AB

That's fine. Yes.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

Okay.

(Amendment as amended agreed to on division [See Minutes of Proceedings])

This turns me to the point where I....

I guess I should look at my notes.

Do we need to have a complete vote on both clause 1 and 2, Mr. Legislative Clerk, or are we done with our work today?

4:50 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Philippe Méla

No, no, no.

4:50 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

No, we're not done. I've turned the page.

This is my first time doing clause-by-clause consideration, colleagues, so stay with me.

Shall the title carry?

4:50 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

On division.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

Shall the bill as amended carry?

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

John Barlow Conservative Foothills, AB

I'd like to have a recorded vote, please.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

Madam Clerk, we will have a recorded vote.

(Bill C-234 as amended agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)

Shall the chair report the bill as amended to the House?