Evidence of meeting #66 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was biosecurity.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

René Roy  Chair, Canadian Pork Council
Raphael Bertinotti  Director, Quality, Health, Research and Development, Les Éleveurs de porcs du Québec
John de Bruyn  Chair of the Board of Directors, Ontario Pork
Tara Terpstra  Vice-Chair of the Board of Directors, Ontario Pork
Audrey Cameron  Director, On-Farm Programs, Canadian Pork Council
Yvan Fréchette  First vice-president, Les Éleveurs de porcs du Québec
Colleen McElwain  Executive Director, Animal Health Canada
Matt Bowman  Co-Chair, Animal Health and Care Committee, Canadian Cattle Association
Trevor Lawson  President-Elect, Canadian Veterinary Medical Association
Paul Doyon  senior vice-president general, Union des producteurs agricoles
Leigh Rosengren  Chief Veterinary Officer, Canadian Cattle Association
Guylain Charron  Agricultural Research and Policy Advisor, Agronomy, Union des producteurs agricoles

7:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

I call this meeting to order.

Welcome to meeting No. 66 of the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-food.

I will start with a few reminders. Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format. The proceedings will be made available via the House of Commons website. Just so you are aware, the webcast will always show the person speaking, rather than the entirety of the committee.

We have a lot of substitutions this evening. Ms. Khalid is replacing Mr. Turnbull, Mr. Bains may be replacing Ms. Valdez for the second half of the meeting, Mr. Doherty is replacing Mr. Barlow, Mr. Johns is replacing Mr. MacGregor, and Ms. Lantsman is replacing Ms. Rood.

Welcome to the committee.

It's great to see you all.

Colleagues, we were a bit disrupted by the votes.

I don't foresee there being a vote. I don't think that's possible, but in case somehow this happens, I would ask for your unanimous consent that if a vote comes up, we vote virtually from this room and that we don't take, necessarily 10 or 15 minutes.

As the chair, I will give a reasonable period to vote, but we don't want to disrupt our witnesses who are in the room.

Is that agreed?

7:05 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

7:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

Okay, that's great. That's perfect.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, April 17, 2023, the committee is resuming its study of animal biosecurity preparedness.

I would now like to welcome the witnesses who are joining us tonight.

From Animal Health Canada, we have Colleen McElwain, who is executive director. I think she may be joining us online. Thank you for joining.

From the Canadian Pork Council, we have René Roy, the chair; and Audrey Cameron, director of on-farm programs. Welcome, and thank you so much for your patience as we get through some of the procedural elements in the House.

From Les Éleveurs de porcs du Québec, we have Yvan Fréchette, First Vice-President, and Raphael Bertinotti, Director, Quality, Health, Research and Development.

Welcome to the committee.

With Ontario Pork, we have John de Bruyn, who is chair of the board of directors, and Tara Terpstra. Tara, it's good to see you. It was nice to meet you just before we got started. John, of course, is chair of the board of directors, and Tara is the vice-chair. Thank you for making the trip in and being here in person.

We're going to have five minutes for opening remarks, and then we're going to turn it over for questions.

Colleagues, we have some work to do. We're going to go to maybe just shy of two hours today with our two panels, and then we have a bit of work to get done. We have had some delays over the last couple of weeks.

I'm going to turn it over to the Canadian Pork Council and Monsieur Roy.

Mr. Roy, you have the floor for five minutes.

7:05 p.m.

René Roy Chair, Canadian Pork Council

Good evening.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, for inviting us to appear before the committee.

Thank you as well to the committee members for your work on this issue.

My name is Rene Roy, and I am the chair of the Canadian Pork Council. Joining me is our director of on-farm programs, Audrey Cameron.

I am also chair of Animal Health Canada, and our executive director Colleen McElwain is also here as a witness. We are also pleased to be joined by the representatives of Les Éleveurs de porcs du Québec and Ontario Pork, two of our provincial members.

Throughout the industry, we are seized with the questions around biosecurity, and we have made great strides at improving preparedness throughout the industry in recent years. We are also committed to ongoing improvements as we continue to work to keep African Swine Fever out of Canada.

The Canadian Pork Council is the voice of Canada's almost 8,000 pork farmers.

Our industry is responsible for almost $5 billion in annual exports to more than 75 markets around the world. Indeed, pork exports represent almost 1% of Canada's world exports.

Let's talk about what we would like to see.

We would like to see better tools and testing capabilities for disease surveillance, so we can track outbreaks more quickly and work to eliminate health threats.

We would also love to see a cross-government initiative set up related to wild pig eradication. At present, CFIA is leading the initiative, but it's not really a food issue. We intend to work with government to include Natural Resources Canada in the mix, as well as Parks Canada, as we seek to eradicate this invasive species.

Finally, we continue to seek harmonization of regulation as much as possible with the United States on this issue. Given the integrated nature of our industry on both sides of the border, the more we can collaborate with USDA on biosecurity engagement, the better.

What have our efforts to improve biosecurity entailed thus far, and what would we like to see?

As an industry, we have done very good work on traceability programs, and PigTrace is recognized as the best in class traceability program around the world. Its existence has allowed us to respond quickly to outbreaks of Seneca Valley virus, among others, to contain outbreaks quickly and to mitigate their impact on the industry.

We have also worked with livestock transporters to ensure that our transportation practices maximize biosecurity at every step. There's work we have undertaken with AAFC, CFIA and others in the industry. We also provide our members with training and on-farm programs to help guide their biosecurity decisions, and we work continually to improve those standards. Our international trading partners recognize us as a leader in this area, and we continue to work to maintain that position globally.

Thanks to government funding for ASF preparation, we continue to work to develop tools and tool kits for farmers to use on farm to ensure that they have the best available knowledge about prevention tools and other best practices.

Thank you. We'll be ready to take your questions.

7:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

Thank you very much.

We'll now turn to Les Éleveurs de porcs du Québec.

Mr. Fréchette or Mr. Bertinotti, you have the floor for five minutes.

7:10 p.m.

Raphael Bertinotti Director, Quality, Health, Research and Development, Les Éleveurs de porcs du Québec

Good evening, everyone.

Thank you for the opportunity to appear today.

I will start off with an overview of biosecurity in Quebec's pork industry and then finish with a brief analysis of its strengths and weaknesses.

Biosecurity comprises all measures designed to reduce disease transmission. It is also the foundation of our business. Canada enjoys an animal health situation that is the envy of the world, and that privileged situation has enabled us to become a leading global exporter. We export some 70% of what we produce. Countries such as Spain and Brazil have become major competitors too as a result of animal health improvements made in those countries.

We are dealing with three main types of health threats: reportable diseases such as African swine fever, or ASF, emerging diseases such as porcine epidemic diarrhea, and endemic diseases such as porcine reproductive and respiratory syndrome, or PRRS, or influenza. Each disease has its own characteristics and therefore its own biosecurity measures framework.

Biosecurity can be developed country-wide, across Canada, a region, a hog operation or at a farm site.

Improving the health of our herds in Quebec is central to our industry's strategic plan. We have established a provincial organization through which we can discuss health issues, and we are working hard to develop an ASF emergency plan that's actually quite advanced.

Many other organizations operate in the maintenance and improvement of swine health in Quebec. Given our biosecurity strengths, Canada's favourable geographic situation is clearly an asset.

There are no wild pigs in Quebec, which isn't the case in the rest of Canada. Even though we are sometimes inadequately funded, our business ecosystem focusing on health issues and our disease monitoring capabilities are some of our strengths. Our vaccine research and production capabilities are as well. We will soon be deploying an influenza vaccine based on porcine strains circulating in Quebec.

Our degree of biosecurity compliance has distinctly improved. Since 2017, we have conducted more than 1,100 biosecurity audits at our facilities and several dozens of others in our transportation businesses. Our success in systematically eradicating all porcine epidemic diarrhea contaminations has been one of our strengths.

As for our weaknesses, Canada must strive to reduce the costs associated with medication and vaccine approvals. It must also do more to control our borders to prevent ASF from being introduced into Canada.

I would remind you that, despite all the efforts we have remain disease-free, two major diseases from Asia have been introduced into Canada in the past decade, including, in particular, porcine epidemic diarrhea.

In addition, there are reasonable grounds to question whether it is appropriate to designate ASF as a reportable disease. To provide some context, it must be understood that a single case of ASF among any branch of the suidae family in Canada—and that includes pets, for example—would destroy my industry and result in the humanitarian slaughter of half the hogs in Canada. That would include healthy hogs that would be unmarketable because we wouldn't be able to export them. It must be understood that the rules respecting this disease would be more consequential than the disease itself, which is unacceptable.

To limit this kind of human and economic disaster, we must have functional trade zoning agreements enabling us to recover our export capacity in the space of a few days. However, we don't have that at the present time.

Under the agreement that we've signed with the United States, implementation times are too long and subject to a potential political decision. The agreement we have reached with the European Union is subject to non-tariff barriers. We must also sign compartmentalization agreements, and funding will be needed to implement them.

At the provincial and even national level, transportation is still the weak link, despite all previous efforts. We need more cleaning and drying stations across the country.

At the regional level, distances among our farms aren't always enough to prevent certain diseases such as PRRS and influenza from spreading via aerosols. The costs to install filtration systems need to be lowered.

We need to continue complying with biosecurity protocols in our businesses, and we are striving to improve this aspect. The digitization of our industry would be a lever that would help improve compliance with those protocols.

Thank you very much.

We will be pleased to answer your questions.

7:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

Thank you very much, Mr. Bertinotti.

We will now give the floor to the representatives of Ontario Pork.

7:15 p.m.

John de Bruyn Chair of the Board of Directors, Ontario Pork

Good evening. As mentioned, my name is John de Bruyn, chair of Ontario Pork, and I'll be sharing my time with Tara Terpstra, the vice-chair.

We're pleased to present to this committee the ongoing activities and investments to improve biosecurity preparedness and prevent the threat of foreign animal diseases—in particular, African swine fever—to the Canadian swine industry, as well as many other hazards to animal and human health.

Biosecurity is critical to reduce the spread of swine diseases across the industry. There are many diseases that, if they enter a barn, will have devastating impacts on the farm and the industry. As part of our presentation, we would like to share our perspective from the Ontario pork sector.

The Ontario pork sector represents a significant share of Canada's agriculture and food sector. We're currently just under a thousand producers in Ontario who market just shy of six million hogs. Ontario's pork producers are among the world's leaders in animal care, food safety, quality and traceability.

For an industry that exports roughly two-thirds of our domestic production, international market access is the cornerstone of economic success. Any foreign animal disease entering Canada would have a severe and negative impact on the pork sector, as well as on our economy. An ASF outbreak in Canada would result in an immediate border closure to both live animals and pork products. We welcome government support to help us prevent and prepare for foreign animal disease outbreaks.

Many swine diseases, if they enter a barn, will have devastating impacts on the farm and the industry. Depending on the disease, the stage of production and the size of the barn, an outbreak could have a significant impact on my farm. A great deal of effort and investment was put into biosecurity on farms and continues to be invested over the years here.

Due to diverse protection systems and marketing arrangements, there's significant animal movement between different locations within the swine sector, which makes us a bit unique as an industry across Canada. Some critical control points within supply chains still require further attention and investment to bridge the gaps. These critical control points, from Ontario's perspective, are assembly yards and livestock trucks, as well as processing plants, which are currently considered by producers as having an increased risk of exposing animals and vehicles to disease-causing agents.

Since these areas are considered central hubs of animal movement, they require a more sizable investment in biosecurity measures to be effective.

7:20 p.m.

Tara Terpstra Vice-Chair of the Board of Directors, Ontario Pork

We strongly support the creation and maintenance of the Canadian foot-and-mouth disease vaccine bank. We ask the government and government agencies to remain vigilant with respect to foreign animal disease prevention and preparedness. This includes the Canada Border Services Agency, to enhance preventative measures such as surveillance, awareness and education to all entry points in Canada; the CFIA, to improve the efficiency of screening of imported feed ingredients, and rapid testing protocols and procedures to resolve suspected cases found on our farms; and AAFC, to create a framework to further the investment into biosecurity enhancements and research to be utilized throughout the value chain.

The Ontario swine industry has a proven record of continuous improvement and investment in biosecurity measures over the years at the farm level. Biosecurity in the swine industry continues to evolve as new methods are adopted. Strategic investment in new research infrastructure is key to developing improved practices and solutions with respect to emerging animal health challenges, the development of new vaccines, and biosecurity measures that could be applied across the value chain.

When it comes to on-farm biosecurity, putting preventative measures in place to keep animals healthy has been a long-standing and successful practice for Ontario hog farms. Any new regulations or programs related to biosecurity need to be flexible in design to allow producers to adapt through their farming operations without compromising biosecurity, effectiveness and industry competitiveness. If the past few years have taught us anything, it is that we cannot afford to be complacent, and we need to stay vigilant.

7:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

Thank you very much. We'll now turn to questions.

Mr. Lehoux, you have the floor for six minutes.

7:20 p.m.

Conservative

Richard Lehoux Conservative Beauce, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thanks to the witnesses for being with us this evening. I apologize for the delay.

All the witnesses have said how important it is to be well prepared to combat African swine fever.

I'll go first to Mr. Roy, from the Canadian Pork Council, and then perhaps to the other witnesses.

Mr. Roy, are we prepared to combat African swine fever?

7:20 p.m.

Chair, Canadian Pork Council

René Roy

That's an important question.

The industry and government have worked very hard to improve the situation, but work remains to be done on crisis assistance programs.

I'll ask Ms. Cameron to provide more details on what's been done and what should be done.

7:20 p.m.

Audrey Cameron Director, On-Farm Programs, Canadian Pork Council

Good evening.

We're working hard every day to prepare numerous tools, but we're far from ready.

One of the first tools we would like to focus on is traceability. Our current traceability tool is the PigTRACE program, which is very well established. However, movements are currently reported over seven-day periods. We would like to develop tools, electronic tools, of course, to report them more frequently, even instantaneously. That aspect alone would entail a significant investment that would enable us to develop those electronic tools.

7:20 p.m.

Conservative

Richard Lehoux Conservative Beauce, QC

You also mentioned the importance of border control. Is the Canada Border Services Agency adequately equipped for border tracking?

7:20 p.m.

Chair, Canadian Pork Council

René Roy

The Canada Border Services Agency has made significant investments but we agree that the borders are very fluid. Additional efforts are needed, particularly when crises arise and diseases come from elsewhere, as was recently the case in the Caribbean. Additional resources are needed if we want to be able to monitor on various fronts.

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

Richard Lehoux Conservative Beauce, QC

I see.

Should we invest a little more in the Canada Border Services Agency, if only because there's a shortage of veterinarians at the borders? We've been told that many times.

Is that still the case? What's your opinion on that issue?

7:25 p.m.

Chair, Canadian Pork Council

René Roy

We do need additional resources, for monitoring purposes, among other things. For example, it's very important to have sniffer dogs to detect meat in particular.

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

Richard Lehoux Conservative Beauce, QC

Generally speaking, should the government provide more support for research to put Canada in the forefront?

We know that, in some instances, these diseases develop quickly and elsewhere in the world. Are we conducting enough research to develop vaccines? That's an aspect of the issue that we can also work on.

7:25 p.m.

Chair, Canadian Pork Council

René Roy

A major effort has been made on vaccines. We're discussing swine fever, but various diseases present high risk for our country. When vaccines are developed in cooperation with other countries, we all have an interest in controlling the disease.

Currently, no recognized vaccine can control swine fever. However an international effort is being made to find vaccine candidates.

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

Richard Lehoux Conservative Beauce, QC

I don't remember which witness raised the issue of vaccine approval. Is it possible to consider exchanges, if they're developed elsewhere, in another country? I'm thinking, in particular, of the United States or the European Economic Community. If these vaccines were recognized here in Canada, we wouldn't have to waste time redoing all the studies.

What you think about that?

7:25 p.m.

Chair, Canadian Pork Council

René Roy

It was Mr. Bertinotti who raised that.

What I can say is that the regulations have to be improved because it's very costly to develop new vaccines and health products. That puts a major damper on Canadian biosecurity, especially if we're trying to reduce the number of human health products we use, particularly class 1 products. The challenge is to come up with new products.

I'll let the other witnesses address that point.

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

Richard Lehoux Conservative Beauce, QC

Do I still have a little time left, Mr. Chair?

7:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Kody Blois

You have one minute left.

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

Richard Lehoux Conservative Beauce, QC

All right.

I'll go to the representatives of Les Éleveurs de porcs du Québec. Do you have anything to add?

7:25 p.m.

Yvan Fréchette First vice-president, Les Éleveurs de porcs du Québec

Mr. Lehoux, I think Mr. Roy did a good job of summarizing what we wanted to tell the committee about approvals.

We should do the same thing with vaccine development as we did during the COVID‑19 pandemic. We established an expedited approvals procedure for products that were recognized elsewhere in the world. We usually don't have that procedure here in Canada. There's no expedited procedure when the product is used in the United States or Europe, for example. We have to follow the usual procedures in Canada.

Canada is a small pork producer. Consequently, companies don't want to invest the millions of dollars necessary to sell their product.