This is something we've heard over and over again.
Maybe I can shift gears really quickly with Mr. Vaags.
Right now in the House, today, we're debating a motion about grocery prices and how we can bring them down in Canada. We hear often from the Liberals that there are imaginary taxes when we talk about the industrial carbon tax, fuel standards and packaging taxes. We know this is not true. As a primary producer, I can tell you that. We see these costs.
Can you bring that up and explain what you see in your operation, since it's vertically integrated?