Thank you for the question. It's a great question. I think there are a lot of challenges when it comes to particularly the early stages of building up local food distribution networks. It takes time to build up a network of producers to get to scale.
There are moments at which these things become self-sustaining, but you have to get pretty big. Especially for non-profit organizations—I'm sure many people around this table have been involved—we don't have the same access to capital. We can't take out a loan. We don't have access to business financing. I think one of the ways that government and public resources are most important is in providing that kind of support to non-profits that are providing the infrastructure for private producers and buyers to meet.
For us, the critical point is that there are real limits if that support is only for capital equipment. I am very happy that I was able to get a grant to buy an electric van. It makes my program work. We wouldn't be able to afford to do it without it, but there also has to be someone to drive that van. That is the hardest part of the work to resource—the human capital of people to do the work of picking up the food, packing it and moving it. In the non-profit ecosystem, that's really challenging. That's the missing piece, up to this point, in some of the government support programs for this kind of infrastructure. They don't cover the soft costs that let us have that runway to get to a point where it can sustain itself by earning its own revenue.
