No one likes change, but the closures' relevance to what we're doing is more on the operational side as opposed to the science side. The science side is the important aspect that people keep talking about, and we're not doing less science. From what I've heard across the country, even through my national policy frameworks, we've had 20 cases, and people are saying that we're not doing science appropriately, we're not doing it enough or we need to do a better job of doing science.
