I can't speak to the IT industry and what they invest in terms of creating these kinds of mechanisms. What we have seen and what the Copyright Board has adjudicated is that as a result of the technological innovations that have led to enormous efficiencies, the broadcasters have been able to increase their profitability. Those statistics are cited on the CRTC website as well.
I'll go back to the Copyright Board's mechanism, because they do look at all of those factors, including ability to pay. I don't think anyone, including the broadcasters, has disputed that there's a value to the copies. What we're here asking for today is just to make sure that the stated intent that copies would be temporary actually materializes in the bill.