Evidence of meeting #23 for Bill C-2 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) in the 39th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Michèle Hurteau  Senior Counsel, Department of Justice
Joe Wild  Senior Counsel, Legal Services, Treasury Board Portfolio, Department of Justice
Steve Chaplin  Legal Counsel, Legal Services, House of Commons
Daphne Meredith  Assistant Secretary, Corporate Priorities and Planning, Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat
Susan Baldwin  Procedural Clerk

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I'm sorry, Madame Guay, did you want an explanation?

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Yes, this is precisely what I just asked. I would like an explanation of the amendment from the New Democratic Party in order to get a clear understanding, because it seems very similar to that of the government.

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Yes, I think it's similar, but not exact.

8:45 p.m.

Senior Counsel, Department of Justice

Michèle Hurteau

The amendment moved by the New Democratic Party is more restrictive than that of the government.

Indeed, the new section 11.2 proposed by the New Democratic Party only mentions the special reports of the Commissioner under section 11.1. The Commissioner tables several reports, an investigation report, a special report and an annual report. Not all of these reports are included in the first suggestion.

The government amendment has a wider scope since it would capture all three reports of the Commissioner, the investigation report, the annual report and the special report.

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Mr. Dewar.

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

The intent is captured. Thank you for the explanation and the question. So I'll withdraw my amendment.

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Ms. Guay, I think I cut you off. I'm sorry. No?

All right. We will proceed to the government amendment, which is G-29, on page 66.

Mr. Poilievre.

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

It is moved.

The question.

(Amendment agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

We now move to the amendments on clause 83. That's a government amendment, G-30, on page 67.

Mr. Poilievre.

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

I move it.

The expert panel....

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Mr. Wild.

8:50 p.m.

Senior Counsel, Legal Services, Treasury Board Portfolio, Department of Justice

Joe Wild

This is simply a technical amendment to capture the two additional sections that were added through amendment tonight.

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Well, we're going to jump ahead. I may have jumped the gun.

Clause 83 and subclause 88.(2) are consequential, so we're going to proceed with clause 88, government amendment G-31, and that's on page 68. I'm sorry, committee.

Mr. Poilievre, perhaps you could turn to page 68, G-31.

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

Yes, so moved.

I believe this is an effort to correspond the French with the English. I'm getting nods of agreement.

(Amendment agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

So now we go to the amendments of clause 89.

Mr. Dewar, you're up next.

That's a New Democratic amendment. It's on page 72.1. It's NDP-5.1. That's a line conflict with NDP-6.

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

So we're on NDP-5.1, correct?

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

We are, sir.

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

It is so moved.

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Did you have some comments to make, sir?

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

It's just basically some new disclosure subsections for the Commissioner of Lobbying. I thought it was important to be thorough in this area.

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Okay.

Ms. Jennings.

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

I have a question of procedure. I don't understand why we've moved to clause 89 and we're not dealing with the new clauses 88.1 and 88.2 in the government amendment, G-32. I'd just like an explanation.

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Go ahead.

Susan Baldwin Procedural Clerk

It was our advice to the chair that proposed clauses 88.1 and 88.2 could be voted on separately by the committee. They weren't necessarily completely tied up with the ones we're doing now. We're just going to skip over them, and then we'll do all the votes the chair read that applied beforehand. Then we'll come immediately after that back to proposed clauses 88.1 and 88.2, which now also include the amendment G-30.

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

Okay. I must have missed something. I must have missed the chair's explanation of which clauses we would be doing and why, while we stood down. In the past, we've said we're going to deal for instance with clause 39, which also applies to clause 40, 56, and 58, and then we would come back.