Evidence of meeting #26 for Bill C-2 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Susan Baldwin  Procedural Clerk
Marc Chénier  Counsel, Democratic Renewal Secretariat, Privy Council Office
Joe Wild  Senior Counsel, Legal Services, Treasury Board Portfolio, Department of Justice
Marc O'Sullivan  Acting Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, As an Individual

7:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Clause 180.1, which is G-45.4 on page 144.9 of the amendments.

Mr. Poilievre, this is on page 144.9, and it's a government amendment.

7:30 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

Withdrawn.

7:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Mr. Dewar, NDP-18.7, which is the same as G-45.4, is on page 144.11.

7:30 p.m.

NDP

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

So moved.

7:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

All right, Mr. Dewar, I'm going to rule that inadmissible.

7:30 p.m.

NDP

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

Thank you.

7:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

7:30 p.m.

NDP

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

I'm batting a thousand.

7:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

You're just like Mr. Martin. Do you want me to give the reasons, sir?

7:30 p.m.

NDP

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

Sure.

7:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

G-45.4 proposes to add an offence to the Library and Archives of Canada Act. House of Commons Procedure and Practice states on page 654 that “an amendment is inadmissible if it amends a statute that is not before the committee or a section of the parent Act unless it is being specifically amended by a clause of the bill”. Since section 20 of the Library and Archives of Canada Act is not being amended by Bill C-2, it is inadmissible to propose such an amendment. Therefore, NDP-18.7 is inadmissible.

So that's the end of that.

We move to clause 181, and it is consequential to clause 182. Have I missed something? We're at clause 181, being consequential to clause 182, so the vote on clause 181 applies to clause 182. We have a proposed amendment of the New Democratic Party on page 144.13, NDP-18.8.

Yes, Mr. Dewar?

7:35 p.m.

NDP

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

I so move. This is to define.

The definition “government institution” in section 3 of the Act is replaced by the following:

“government institution” means

and then a definition follows, with (a) and (b):

(a) any department or ministry of state of the Government of Canada, or any body or office, listed in the schedule, and

(b) any parent Crown corporation, and any subsidiary of such a corporation, within the meaning of section 83 of the Financial Administration Act;

(Amendment agreed to)

(Clause 181 as amended agreed to on division)

(On clause 182)

7:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I'm very sorry. I missed this. It's amendment NDP-18.9, Mr. Dewar, on page 114.15.

7:35 p.m.

NDP

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

I move that Bill C-2 in clause 182 be amended by adding after line 12 on page 124 the following:

3.01 For greater certainty, the Canadian Race Relations Foundation and the Public Sector Pension Investment Board are parent Crown corporations for the purposes of this Act.

It's just to define and provide certainty to the bill.

7:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I think we've done it.

7:35 p.m.

NDP

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

I can withdraw if we did this when Mr. Martin was here.

7:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

We haven't done it.

7:35 p.m.

NDP

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

I've moved it. Perhaps I might get some technical assistance, Chair.

7:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Mr. Wild.

7:35 p.m.

Senior Counsel, Legal Services, Treasury Board Portfolio, Department of Justice

Joe Wild

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

The amendment that the member has proposed is an amendment to the Privacy Act. It is certainly similar to the amendment that was passed earlier, which was to the Access to Information Act. The reason, of course, is once the definitions have been adopted in the Access to Information Act, normally they are kept parallel to the Privacy Act. So that's what these provisions are doing. They're putting in the same definition of “government institution”, and then these provisions are associated, once you do that definition, under the Privacy Act to ensure there is concordance between the two pieces of legislation.

7:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

NDP-18.9. All those in favour?

7:35 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

No, a point of order. We have a speakers list.

7:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I am very sorry.

Do I have the right order, Mr. Poilievre?

7:35 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

I presume so.

I have a subamendment. I even have copies dans les deux langues officielles.

Above the amendment we add:

For greater certainty, any provision of this Act that applies to a government institution that is a parent Crown corporation applies to any subsidiary of such a corporation, within the meaning of section 83 of the Financial Administration Act;

This subamendment will look familiar because it was the same subamendment we introduced when this committee was presented with the nearly identical NDP amendment some hours ago. I do have copies if members want to see them, and I can share them with the chair.

We have introduced these amendments before, as I said, on a nearly identical previous amendment. Those were both introduced and passed.

7:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

All right. Is everybody happy?

You're not happy.

Here come the documents.