We support constitutionally valid provisions that allow for the continued incarceration of the most serious of offenders. We support that, and we work with the prosecutor service to try to make that a reality. When the Johnson case came out, we were a bit concerned about the impact that would have. I'm not aware of any study that showed the impact of it.
Incidental to that question, I have before me a study the Vancouver police did with respect to their chronic offenders program. They operate a program to deal with the prolific offenders in the community. Oddly enough, in a sample group they studied, they found that sentences for chronic offenders were falling in terms of their period of incarceration over time. They were surprised to see this, and they brought this to the attention of the Department of Justice.
We have a big problem with that group. Beyond the most serious of the serious, we have these offenders who are committing property crimes and other violent and non-violent crimes on a continuing basis in our communities. Pick your target; any one of them is—