The interesting thing with the collectives is that we sit around the table with publishers and Access Copyright. We're equally represented, creators and publishers, and it's in our joint interests, because it's about the secondary uses: it's about the copying of the works. It's not about the original terms of however we're engaged and provide our rights, or whatever contractual agreements we have; that's not the purview of this committee.
Actually we work together, and that has helped. When people come together and talk about all the issues that are affecting them, there's obviously a greater understanding on our side of the challenges that publishers are facing, and vice versa, so we're hoping that we're working toward a better partnership with publishers if we have the appropriate recognition of our joint rights as the creators and as the owners, as they're called.
I don't know if I answered your question.