Evidence of meeting #9 for Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was going.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Bill Freeman  Chair, Creators' Copyright Coalition
Alain Pineau  National Director, Canadian Conference of the Arts
Marvin Dolgay  Vice-Chair, President of Screen Composers Guild of Canada, Creators' Copyright Coalition
John Barrack  Chief Operating Officer and Chief Legal Officer, Canadian Media Production Association
Reynolds Mastin  Counsel, Canadian Media Production Association

12:50 p.m.

Counsel, Canadian Media Production Association

Reynolds Mastin

The secondary liability provisions are critically important because they will go a long way in shutting down certain services that we know are currently being provided here in this country that shouldn't be. By virtue of this bill, we would be provided with the mechanism we need to shut them down. We would say that's actually one of the most critically important aspects of the bill.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Braid Conservative Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

Thank you.

There has been a lot of discussion today about the issue of fair dealing in education. Do you support that notion?

12:50 p.m.

Counsel, Canadian Media Production Association

Reynolds Mastin

To be very blunt, our preference would be that we not further expand the fair dealing provision in that way. However, we also recognize that this may be a matter, along with other aspects of the bill, that will be a matter of compromise. If the compromise is to retain that new exemption, then the one thing we would request is that clear definitional parameters be placed around the word “education”, because, as has been said many times before, it means different things to different people. We don't want to litigate this endlessly in the courts.

12:50 p.m.

Chief Operating Officer and Chief Legal Officer, Canadian Media Production Association

John Barrack

Again, it's all about unintended consequences. If everything can be called an educational experience, then the exemption is meaningless.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

All right. Thank you very much. Thank you to our witnesses.

The meeting is adjourned.