Penalties are one thing. As Bea said, many employers have lots of money. It's part of the cost of doing business to pay fines or to pay costs associated with labour relations and bargaining.
At the end of the day, I'm only interested in my union and other unions being able to get collective agreements at a bargaining table without any intervention. If the government wants to fine employers, then go at it, but at the end of the day, that's not going to impact our right to get a fair collective agreement for workers. As I've said a couple of times, that's not going to interfere with our right to strike.