Thank you, Chair.
Thank you to both of our witnesses for coming to join us tonight.
Mr. Fadden, first of all, for you, I want to follow up slightly on VFS Global. You said recently—and you're quoted as saying—that Canada should end its relationship with having the Beijing police looking after our visa centre in China and in Beijing in particular. I can't disagree with you.
As you say, you “can't think of a more promising entry point for cyberspies”, and for other spies, I guess, and data entry, but we're told, Mr. Fadden, that the government didn't know about it until recently. That's not actually true, because this started in 2008, and VFS indicates that they advised the Government of Canada of who their local contractor was, which they are required to have by Chinese laws.
When you were head of CSIS, where was CSIS when all this was going on, starting in 2008? This has been going on for almost 20 years.