I think that for a very long time Canadians didn't really know where to seek help whenever they were confronted with these kinds of foreign government threats, harassment and intimidation. I still remember some time early last year when we tried to find a number we could get in touch with, a hotline or maybe other ways of sharing the story with the RCMP and police.
Police definitely won't take care of these kinds of foreign interference cases, but still, I think the RCMP quite often previously were very slow in responding and quite often we are asked to provide evidence. But we all understand that it's really difficult for the people involved in these kinds of foreign threats and intimidation to provide very concrete evidence, other than their family members were being shown the photos and they also received phone calls like I did, but then Rogers and Bell refuse to provide the phone list to us, so there's no evidence we can produce.