I think the aims are very often both. It's my impression that the Chinese Communist Party mainly invested in the first place in trying to advance its interests, and other witnesses have said that this has been going on for decades. They've been laying the foundations for a long time. At the same time, obviously we see their trying to undermine the allure of democracies on a global scale, trying to say that democracies can't deliver and can't work.
There's a bit of both going on. I do agree with you that the more we talk about this problem publicly and raise awareness across society, the better to start tackling it.