Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to all of the witnesses. This has been very interesting.
Ms. Paskal, I want to quickly follow up on my colleague Mr. Bergeron's comments.
What I could take from your testimony when you talked about bilaterals and how important they are is that it would be very useful for parliamentarians to visit the region and engage in parliamentary diplomacy. I assume that would be very helpful, and it's something that I know this committee is going to be talking about after. Thank you for raising that with us.
One of the other things I want to ask all three of you is about the idea of post-secondary institutions and the role they play. I think all of you have mentioned that in some way. I actually met with the presidents of the 15 top universities in Canada earlier today, and they expressed some real concern about the Indo-Pacific strategy and the implications for them.
Of course, we have the idea that we need to block and build. Ms. Paskal brought that forward. There's the idea of decoupling versus de-risking, but also the idea that we want to build relationships when they are useful, when they help us build our national capacity. We want to have relationships in working with university alumni, in recruitment for our post-secondary and in research.
How do we manage relationships? How do we ensure our post-secondary institutions are able to do the work we need them to do but do not put Canadian public interests at risk?
I will start with you, Ms. Fitz-Gerald.