Thank you very much.
I'd like to thank the witnesses for being with us this evening. For Ms. Paskal, I believe it is even quite late.
Ms. Fitz-Gerald, in an article you co-wrote with Dr. Jonathan Berkshire‑Miller that was published in iPolitics, you stated that Canada continues to be unsure whether it would be worthwhile to properly define its interests, and it has done nothing recently to define them in terms of a national security strategy, a defence strategy or a clear foreign policy.
Some would even say that the Government of Canada tends to put the cart before the horse, that it's working on a defence policy without having defined a foreign policy and that it's developed an Indo-Pacific strategy without having defined its foreign policy. What are your thoughts?