I would say that it's by being inclusive, as inclusive as possible, not only at the political level but in every single co-operation project we may have in the Indo-Pacific. We mentioned the ODA and a development project in the South Pacific—and it could be, of course, in southeast Asia, etc.—and making sure that Taiwan is part of it.
This would not necessarily be at the governmental level; it could be at the NGO level, or at the academic level, or at the civil society level, but we need to make sure that the Taiwanese are not left behind, are not left aside, that they are fully integrated. That's one way to make sure that Taiwan matters, and that Taiwan is one of us in the sense that it's one of the members of the international community. Even though, of course, on the political and diplomatic level there are lots of difficulties, a lot of hurdles, and Taiwan is not a country like any other, for sure, we can make sure to be as inclusive as possible, something we do not necessarily do all the time these days.