Evidence of meeting #19 for Canadian Heritage in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was crtc.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Charles Dalfen  Chairman, Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission
Scott Hutton  Acting Associate Executive Director, Broadcasting, Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission
Diane Rhéaume  Secretary General, Corporate and Operations, Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission

5 p.m.

Bloc

Maka Kotto Bloc Saint-Lambert, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Dalfen, I am not asking you this question as Chairperson of the CRTC, but rather as someone who has acquired a great deal of experience in this area. Ten, fifteen or twenty years ago, people did not anticipate what the Internet would become today. And we are in no position to anticipate what kind of changes will occur as regards satellite radio, Internet radio, IP telephony and cellular television.

In terms of convergence, it is inevitable that we will have concerns at some point, because the industry perspective will probably prevail over the cultural perspective. The reason I am raising this by way of introduction is that if the directive to increase foreign control over telecommunications were to be acted on, there would be two major consequences: the offshoring of decision-making centres and increased control by American companies of Canadian culture. That is something that we could not possibly have anticipated a few years ago, when the legislation in the two areas of culture and telecommunications made no provision for any such thing.

However, based on your personal experience, do you not think this is a good opportunity to sit down and calmly, seriously consider this matter, avoiding any partisanship -- in our case, we are inured to that sport -- particularly if our concern is to preserve cultural identities?

5 p.m.

Chairman, Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission

Charles Dalfen

Who could possibly be against calm, informative consultations? I obviously encourage you to engage in such consultations.

As I said in my presentation, I believe we should be proud, both in Parliament and in Canada as a whole, of having passed legislation that didn't force us to predict every single technological development, because we took a neutral position in terms of the technology. We focused on services for Canadians, whatever the technology used to deliver them. And I believe that continues to be the case.

That is why we have that flexibility and can carry on our activities, including things like the Internet. I am not saying it's easy, nor am I saying one can predict future events; however, the framework in which we are working is flexible enough that we are able to react fairly quickly to any developments.

When we attend international conferences, people come to us for advice, because they recognize that this is an area that is well developed here. I cannot stress that enough -- namely that we have created a system here, within a very flexible and robust legal framework, that we can continue to work with for a number of years yet, while considering new developments that occur from time to time and with the certainty that we are on the right track. I see no major issues in that regard.

Finally, just to answer your colleague, Mr. Malo, I would say that what is important for me is to leave the job with the sense that the system is strong from a cultural, commercial and technological standpoint. We should always be judged not on our words, not on statements made by others or by ourselves, but rather, on the basis of concrete facts. I believe that we have good reason to be proud here in Canada. I, personally, am proud.

5:05 p.m.

Bloc

Maka Kotto Bloc Saint-Lambert, QC

That is the second question I wanted to ask you, but having anticipated it, you have already answered it.

Thank you.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Thank you very much.

I'm very pleased with the way our questioning went here today. Everyone had an opportunity to ask our witnesses what their thoughts were of the CRTC.

Thank you very much for your answers. I thought they were very full, and thank you again for coming.

We are going to have a five-minute recess.

5:13 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Can we please have everyone's attention?

Our committee business, which was put over from the last meeting, was on the court challenges program hearings, which we are working on.

I have a little something I'll read here. My clerk is going to help me read off some of the names because I'm not bilingual, and I apologize for that. This is about the court challenges program.

We'll have another two-minute pause, until we get some translation.

5:21 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

We don't have any translation.

My suggestion is that we adjourn the meeting today and we'll bring it up as one of the first things on Wednesday. It will be on our agenda for Wednesday.

The meeting is adjourned.