I was going to say that I find it difficult to determine what causes harm. I think that if you're consistently socializing children and youth in how they're supposed to behave in society, and intrinsically, in our current binary system, men are shown to be aggressive and women are shown to be passive, then what is the true harm? Are we then teaching children to reproduce these stereotypes? And what does that look like in the public and private domains, right?
There are tonnes of studies out there, and I've read several, you know, from ones on R-rated and X-rated movies and how they translate into intimate relationships to ones on violent cartoons. There are tonnes of studies out there, but what you're measuring is really the question. Are you measuring whether people are able to walk in the world and have substantive equality relationships with each gender? Are you measuring whether somebody gets physically assaulted after they watch this? I think that's the bigger question. What are we actually measuring? Are we measuring for a better and just society, or are we measuring for people not being abusive, verbally or sexually, towards one another? I think that's the bigger question for me.