Canadian Heritage Committee on Dec. 3rd, 2009

[The Chair, Conservative, Gary Schellenberger]

Mr. Del Mastro is speaking to the subamendment.

[Dean Del Mastro, Conservative, Peterborough, ON]

To begin with, I will ensure that Madam Lavallée gets her copy of the subamendment.

[Massimo Pacetti, Liberal, Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC]

Mr. Chair, a point of order.

[The Chair, Conservative, Gary Schellenberger]

Mr. Pacetti.

[Massimo Pacetti, Liberal, Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC]

I'm not a regular member. I'm here to try to facilitate movement of this bill. But if the amendment is not receivable, I'm not sure how we can have a discussion.

This is taking way too long. We can just cut it short. If the amendment is not receivable, let's vote—it won't take long—on my amendment. It was put forward by the Minister of Immigration—

[Dean Del Mastro, Conservative, Peterborough, ON]

This is debate.

[Massimo Pacetti, Liberal, Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC]

--when he was here the other day. If we go quite rapidly, we can vote on the rest of the bill. There's another minor amendment. I sought consultations with members across the table. I think we can get this done in the next two minutes, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Conservative, Gary Schellenberger]

You might want to speak on your subamendment, because there have to be some changes to make it qualify. You can carry on or--

[Dean Del Mastro, Conservative, Peterborough, ON]

I'll be happy to. I'll withdraw your--

[Massimo Pacetti, Liberal, Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC]

Just call the question, Mr. Chair.

[Dean Del Mastro, Conservative, Peterborough, ON]

No, he can't just call the question--

[Massimo Pacetti, Liberal, Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC]

Yes, he can.

[Dean Del Mastro, Conservative, Peterborough, ON]

--because I'm recognized to speak right now. As a former chair of the House of Commons--

[Massimo Pacetti, Liberal, Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC]

Mr. Chair, he can. He'd like to.

[The Chair, Conservative, Gary Schellenberger]

There's been an order made. Mr. Del Mastro has the floor.

[Massimo Pacetti, Liberal, Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC]

The chairman can do whatever he likes. If he wants to call the question, he can call the question.

[Pablo Rodriguez, Liberal, Honoré-Mercier, QC]

He's doing what he likes--

[The Chair, Conservative, Gary Schellenberger]

Mr. Del Mastro has the floor.

[Dean Del Mastro, Conservative, Peterborough, ON]

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[The Chair, Conservative, Gary Schellenberger]

There's a point of order.

[Roger Pomerleau, Bloc, Drummond, QC]

Point of order, Mr. Chair. I do not object to Mr. Del Mastro moving the motion, but I am against him discussing it as long as we do not have a copy of the French translation.

[Massimo Pacetti, Liberal, Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC]

It is out of order, in any case.

[Roger Pomerleau, Bloc, Drummond, QC]

Regardless, the principle is there. I do not understand why we are talking about a motion when I do not have the text in front of me.

[Pablo Rodriguez, Liberal, Honoré-Mercier, QC]

It's one o'clock anyway.

[Roger Pomerleau, Bloc, Drummond, QC]

It is totally unacceptable by this committee.