Evidence of meeting #106 for Canadian Heritage in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was board.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Christina Loewen  Executive Director, Opera.ca
Alexandra Badzak  Director and Chief Executive Officer, Ottawa Art Gallery
Adrian Burns  Chair, Board of Trustees, National Arts Centre
Jack Hayden  Chair, Board of Govenors, Rosebud School of the Arts
Johann Zietsman  President and Chief Executive Officer, Arts Commons
Christina Franc  Executive Director, Canadian Association of Fairs and Exhibitions
Martin Théberge  President, Fédération culturelle canadienne-française
Marie-Christine Morin  Acting Executive Director, Fédération culturelle canadienne-française

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

My notes say that you have 28 board members.

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Chair, Board of Trustees, National Arts Centre

Adrian Burns

No, I'm sorry, that is incorrect.

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Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

It includes emeritus directors, admittedly.

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Chair, Board of Trustees, National Arts Centre

Adrian Burns

It's possibly the directors.

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Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

It includes the emeritus directors.

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Chair, Board of Trustees, National Arts Centre

Adrian Burns

Oh, we don't have emeritus directors. I'm sorry, I'd have to drill down on that. I apologize, but that's incorrect information.

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Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

Okay, what's your assessment of your board parity?

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Chair, Board of Trustees, National Arts Centre

Adrian Burns

Did you say board parity?

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Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

Yes. How many female and how many male on your board?

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Chair, Board of Trustees, National Arts Centre

Adrian Burns

Well, we have achieved parity.

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Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

What are the numbers?

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Chair, Board of Trustees, National Arts Centre

Adrian Burns

Five out of seven members are female. Then we have the ex officio members as well.

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Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

That's an imbalance. Five are female and two are male.

Does that lack of parity affect your performance?

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Chair, Board of Trustees, National Arts Centre

Adrian Burns

There are actually four male because we have the two mayors, ex officio, who do attend board meetings, and they do have a vote. It's five to four, like the Supreme Court.

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Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

All right.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at the Ottawa Art Gallery, my notes say that you have 17 board members. Is that right? Ten are female, so that's 59%. Again, it's a 60-40 split. Do you think that imbalance has affected your performance?

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Director and Chief Executive Officer, Ottawa Art Gallery

Alexandra Badzak

I think it's allowed us to achieve the success that we have achieved.

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Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

For Opera.ca, my notes say you have 11 board members: three female, eight male. That's 29% female and 71% male. Do you think that imbalance has affected the performance of Opera.ca?

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Executive Director, Opera.ca

Christina Loewen

We recognize that we have work to do within our own board, so yes.

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Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

Has it affected your performance? Do you think you've been a worse organization for it?

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Executive Director, Opera.ca

Christina Loewen

I think there's definitely room for improvement, which parity could bring to our board, to be really representative.

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Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

Okay, thank you.

9:20 a.m.

Chair, Board of Trustees, National Arts Centre

Adrian Burns

I think you did those numbers just to throw me off.

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Voices

Oh, oh!

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Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

We'll go over the names if you want.

I have treasurers, executive directors, and emeritus directors on that list.

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Chair, Board of Trustees, National Arts Centre

Adrian Burns

No, I'm just kidding. Thank you.