Evidence of meeting #149 for Canadian Heritage in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was line.
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7:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin
Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all in favour of LIB-2.1? It looks unanimous to me.
(Amendment agreed to)
(Clause 7 as amended agreed to on division)
(On clause 8)
Clause 8 begins with PV-3.
Does Ms. May have to be here to move it?
8 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin
Okay. If PV-3 is adopted, LIB-3 and LIB-3.1 cannot be moved because of a line conflict.
Mr. Anandasangaree.
8 p.m.
Liberal
Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Rouge Park, ON
With respect to Ms. May's amendment PV-3, we believe that this seeks to give power to the minister to co-operate with Indigenous Services, but it's not just Indigenous Services that needs to be a part of it. There are multiplicities of different departments that need to be part of it, so we don't want to specify just Indigenous Services. We want to have a broader, open-ended level of consultation.
8 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin
Okay. Is there any other discussion on PV-3? All in favour?
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
That puts us at LIB-3 and LIB-3.1, which I believe cover the same lines.
Mr. Hogg, are you moving LIB-3 or LIB-3.1?
8 p.m.
Liberal
Gordie Hogg Liberal South Surrey—White Rock, BC
I am moving LIB-3.1 at clause 8—that “The Minister” must “cooperate with provincial” and “territorial” governments—by replacing line 8 on page 6 with the following:
powers and jurisdictions of the provinces and territories of Indigenous governing
and replacing line 1 on page 6 with “The Minister may cooperate with provincial and territorial governments”.
8 p.m.
Liberal
8 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin
Okay. Got it.
Is there any discussion? All in favour?
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings] )
(Clause 8 as amended agreed to on division)
(On clause 9)
At clause 9, we have LIB-3.2
If LIB-3.2 is adopted, LIB-4 cannot be moved because of a line conflict.
Mr. Hogg.
8 p.m.
Liberal
Gordie Hogg Liberal South Surrey—White Rock, BC
It's LIB-3.2. I move that clause 9 be amended by replacing lines 14 to 17 on page 6 with the following:
in a manner consistent with the rights of Indigenous peoples recognized and affirmed by section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982 and the powers and jurisdictions of Indigenous governing bodies and of the provinces and territories, the Minister
and also replacing line 20 on page 6 with the following: “with a provincial or territorial” agreement.
8 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin
Is there any discussion? I believe the changes are adding “and territories” or “territorial”.
Seeing no debate, all in favour?
(Amendment agreed to)
That means LIB-4 cannot be moved. Shall clause 9 as amended carry?
(Clause 9 as amended agreed to on division)
(On clause 10)
We've already dealt with clause 9.1, which takes us to clause 10. The first amendment listed there was IND-3, which was consequential, so it's not going ahead. We now have LIB-5.
8 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin
If that is your preference. I've been told they're identical.
If you want LIB-5.1, that's fine. You can move LIB-5.1.
8:05 p.m.
Liberal
Gordie Hogg Liberal South Surrey—White Rock, BC
It's that clause 10 be amended by replacing line 33 on page 6 with the following:
[Govern]ment of Canada or the government of a province or territory
8:05 p.m.
Liberal
8:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin
I know that a bunch of them have this “territorial” change. As a short form, would it be acceptable to everyone that when it's one of those that just adds “territories” or “territorial” that he just says “territories” or “territorial” and that's it? Okay? Thanks.
(Clause 10 as amended agreed to on division)
There are no proposed amendments to clause 11 that I've seen, so shall clause 11 carry?
(Clause 11 agreed to on division)
On clause 12, there are no amendments standing because NDP-10 was consequential to NDP-1, and that has been defeated. That means we can go straight to a vote.
(Clause 12 agreed to on division)
(On clause 13)
We now have LIB-6. If LIB-6 is adopted, LIB-6.1 cannot be moved due to a line conflict.
Mr. Hogg.
8:05 p.m.
Liberal
Gordie Hogg Liberal South Surrey—White Rock, BC
This is again using the word “variety”. I move that clause 13 be amended by replacing, in the English version, lines 15 to 17 on page 7 with the following: “the Minister has consulted with a variety of Indigenous governments...and a variety of Indigenous organizations”.
8:05 p.m.
Liberal
8:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin
NDP-11 was consequential to NDP-1, so that doesn't go forward. Shall clause 13 as amended carry?
(Clause 13 as amended agreed to on division)
We have a new clause 13.1 and amendment LIB-6.2.
Mr. Hogg.