In fact, one of the great promises of concentrated ownership or consolidated ownership was precisely to save resources so that you could spend more on programming. That's the conundrum we're at. When concentration began in the early 1990s, it was always with the commitment to do more because you could spend less on your operations. The reverse has happened, and it happened under the watch of the regulatory authority, which presumably thought this was acceptable.
The issue now is that news gathering capacity seems to be down. We don't know what the news gathering capacity is in Canada. We don't know what it is in broadcasting. Should we? If we want to ensure that small communities are properly served by journalists, should we know that there are broadcast journalists in Canada? That's one thing.
Again, technology is wonderful. Why shouldn't we benefit from technology? Are Canadians deriving the same benefit from technological savings in broadcasting and telecoms as the companies that are actually using the spectrum for their benefit?
They should use it. I'm a business person and I believe in that benefit. It's whether there is a quid pro quo for the public interest, and where those savings are going.