Evidence of meeting #98 for Canadian Heritage in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was museum.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Marie Lalonde  Executive Director, Ontario Museum Association
Carol Pauzé  Director, Musée de l'ingéniosité J. Armand Bombardier
Pierre Wilson  Director, Musée des maîtres et artisans du Québec
Hank Bull  Trustee, Vancouver Art Gallery
Louise Pothier  Chief Curator and Archaeologist, Pointe-à-Callière, Montréal Museum of Archaeology and History
Anne Élisabeth Thibault  Director, Exhibitions-Technology Development, Pointe-à-Callière, Montréal Museum of Archaeology and History

10:35 a.m.

Chief Curator and Archaeologist, Pointe-à-Callière, Montréal Museum of Archaeology and History

Louise Pothier

I will answer the first question, and let my colleague answer the second.

The specific funding we got for the work done on the Parliament of the United Province of Canada came from the Ville de Montréal and the ministère de la Culture et des Communications du Québec, but mostly from the Ville de Montréal. Last year, we did the last major excavation campaign. This was a massive project, costing $6 million dollars. The visitors got access to the site throughout the whole summer. More than 25,000 people visited the archaeological site. It was a great success.

Unfortunately, we did not receive assistance from the federal government. However, we see this project as being phase 3. It is a development project in which we want to make the site accessible, and put a new pavilion on top of it. It is a huge site that is 100 metres long. It is probably Montreal's last, still intact, major archaeological site. It is extremely rich.

In terms of infrastructure, we have started talking with the federal government. Our director, Francine Lelièvre, has many contacts who work with federal programs. Things are going very smoothly. The same goes for our talks with the ministère de la Culture et des Communications du Québec.

As you know, we have a new municipal administration. Therefore, we will resume, with the new administration, the talks we started with the previous one. The project itself is going along quite well. We hope that the issues with funding will be solved this year. This project will cost more than $100 million. The problem isn't so much our infrastructure as it is our operating budget.

With that amount, we could acquire additional equipment that would, in my opinion, reach out to all Canadians. This is about a piece of political history that took place in Old Montreal, on the grounds of the Parliament at the time when Montreal was the capital of United Canada, also referred to as the Province of Canada.

Operations are a major issue. As practically all the witnesses have said, operations are museums' main Achilles heel. The budget we receive annually allows us to carry out our operations smoothly for now, but, if we add the equivalent of the third of our museum, we will need more resources. Of course, we are not expecting our operating budget to be increased by one-third.

That being said, there will be needs, whether for operations, potential projects, guides we need on-site, educational programs, and exhibits that will take place in this new pavilion. It goes without saying that we will need to prepare an operating budget. As we said earlier, the Ville de Montréal is the only partner the museum has to fund its operations. We have no partnerships with either the Quebec or the Canadian government.

The site of the Parliament of the United Province of Canada is a great example. It has all the necessary qualities to become a national historic site. It could then receive funding from the federal government. In this case, I'm not talking about the construction project, just the operations. The question is how do we proceed, given that we are working on a municipal site. We are open to the idea of talking about innovative solutions with you.

Could existing federal agencies such as Parks Canada and the Canadian Museum of History have a role to play in this? Would an entity be created specifically for this purpose? Everything is on the table, and we hope to have good discussions with you on this issue.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

Richard Hébert Liberal Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Mrs. Thibault, what are your thoughts on this?

10:40 a.m.

Director, Exhibitions-Technology Development, Pointe-à-Callière, Montréal Museum of Archaeology and History

Anne Élisabeth Thibault

Thank you for your question on multimedia. As Ms. Pothier mentioned, Pointe-à-Callière is a museum that was recognized from the outset when it opened in 1992. It is still recognized today for its innovative use of technology.

You talked about how the Government of Canada helps in the multimedia sector. I can tell you that the Government of Canada has guaranteed assistance for renewing the show through the Canada cultural spaces fund, managed by the Department of Canadian Heritage. It is clear that this assistance was given on an ad hoc basis, in this case, for a high-technology project.

In our case, we do not use multimedia to showcase virtual reality, but rather to make the museum's sites come alive. What I mean by this is that Pointe-à-Callière is a museum that features sites. We work with historical remains. How can we make these remains come to life? How do we talk about the history of this site with Montrealers and other visitors? We do so by putting visitors into contact with the people who built the sites. Digital technology allows us to convey emotions to visitors by putting them into contact with the people and the history behind the site. This is mainly what pushes us to want to use digital technology when we open new buildings and present exhibits.

We must also take into account that visitors these days have extremely high expectations when they visit museums. They want to experience something, and connect with it. For us, digital technology is therefore a tool that both facilitates this initial contact between visitors and history, and leaves them with emotional memories.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

Thank you very much, Mrs. Thibault.

That is all the time we have today. Thank you to all the witnesses.

Thank you very much, Mr. Bull, from Vancouver.

Thank you to the witnesses who are here with us.

We're done. Thanks.