Evidence of meeting #27 for Canadian Heritage in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was crtc.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Thomas Owen Ripley  Director General, Broadcasting, Copyright and Creative Marketplace, Department of Canadian Heritage
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Drew Olsen  Senior Director, Marketplace and Legislative Policy, Department of Canadian Heritage
Kathy Tsui  Manager, Industrial and Social Policy, Broadcasting, Copyright and Creative Marketplace Branch, Department of Canadian Heritage

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

It was just the rewording of mine.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

I'm sorry, Ms. McPherson. Go ahead.

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

It was exactly the same subamendment, just reworded. Can we not update the wording considering the speed at which we're running through this?

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

I understand. Yes, I'll let that pass. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do that or not, but nevertheless given the small, minute details of what you're talking about, why not?

Can I have the will of the committee to proceed that way?

12:45 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Thank you so much, everybody. For the sake of clarification, can you read the new and improved subamendment of yours?

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

You mean the shiny new one? It reads:

The Commission may facilitate those negotiations at the request of either of the parties to the negotiations.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Does everyone have an understanding? We'll now go to a vote.

Shall Ms. McPherson's subamendment to amendment G-9 carry?

I heard a no.

Mr. Rayes, was that you who said no?

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Conservative

Alain Rayes Conservative Richmond—Arthabaska, QC

That's right, Mr. Chair, I said no.

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Liberal

Julie Dabrusin Liberal Toronto—Danforth, ON

Can we do it on division, please, Mr. Chair?

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Conservative

Alain Rayes Conservative Richmond—Arthabaska, QC

All right.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Okay.

(Subamendment agreed to on division)

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

We now go back to the main amendment, G-9.

Shall G-9 carry?

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Conservative

Alain Rayes Conservative Richmond—Arthabaska, QC

No.

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Liberal

Julie Dabrusin Liberal Toronto—Danforth, ON

Can it carry on division?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Shall it carry on division?

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Conservative

Alain Rayes Conservative Richmond—Arthabaska, QC

I'll be voting against, on division.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Mr. Rayes, what was proposed was carried but on division.

Do you want to have a recorded vote?

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Conservative

Alain Rayes Conservative Richmond—Arthabaska, QC

Yes I would.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Okay.

(Amendment as amended agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The vote on G-9 applies to G-16, as I mentioned earlier, so if you're following along in your hymn books, folks, we now go to BQ-21.

Mr. Champoux.

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Bloc

Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC

It's just an addition to the amendment intended to allow the CRTC...

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Conservative

Alain Rayes Conservative Richmond—Arthabaska, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

There is a point of order from Mr. Rayes.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Alain Rayes Conservative Richmond—Arthabaska, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I want to make sure that I've understood. The committee has just adopted amendment G-9, although the Conservative Party voted against. As a result, amendment G-16 is set aside and we're done with this amendment. Is that correct?

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

No. Basically what has happened here, Mr. Rayes, is there are two amendments, and the ruling from the table was that they were consequential, one depending on the other. They are G-9 and G-16, and because we passed G-9, that will also apply to G-16, which is further ahead in the agenda.

I'm not sure what page it is on in your agenda, but if you race ahead there you'll find G-16.