Canadian Heritage Committee on April 30th, 2021

Evidence of meeting #28 for Canadian Heritage in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Bill C-10

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee Ms. Aimée Belmore

Thomas Owen Ripley Director General, Broadcasting, Copyright and Creative Marketplace Branch, Department of Canadian Heritage

Drew Olsen Senior Director, Marketplace and Legislative Policy, Department of Canadian Heritage

Philippe Méla Legislative Clerk

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Senior Director, Marketplace and Legislative Policy, Department of Canadian Heritage

Drew Olsen

Thank you, Mr. Waugh, for the question.

Shaw operates many broadcasting distribution undertakings, or what we call cable systems. Most of those are operated under licences, unless they're small cable systems that have been exempted by the CRTC from being required to hold a licence. Since they hold a licence, they would still be covered under the amendment, which would apply to the change of ownership or a Canadian broadcasting undertaking carried on under a licence. They would still have a licence, and then the CRTC would thus have the power under this subsection to put conditions of service around any change in ownership.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Thank you, Mr. Olsen.

We are still on the subamendment from Ms. McPherson regarding “Canadian” broadcasting.

Shall this subamendment carry?

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Conservative

Alain Rayes Conservative Richmond—Arthabaska, QC

No.

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Liberal

Julie Dabrusin Liberal Toronto—Danforth, ON

Can we pass it on division, Mr. Chair?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

You wish to carry it on division.

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Conservative

Alain Rayes Conservative Richmond—Arthabaska, QC

No. I am asking for a recorded vote.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Okay. Madam Clerk, please conduct the vote.

(Subamendment agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Now we go back to the main amendment as amended. This is G-10.

Seeing no further discussion, we now go to a vote.

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Conservative

Alain Rayes Conservative Richmond—Arthabaska, QC

Mr. Chair, could you please reread the proposed paragraph, as amended?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

I didn't get the first part. I got the second part.

I'm going to call on Mr. Méla to read it as amended, if he has it there.

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Philippe Méla Legislative Clerk

I do, Mr. Chair.

Would you like the French version, the English version, or both?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

You can read the version in French.

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Legislative Clerk

Philippe Méla

Here is the amended wording:

h.1) toute modification relative à la propriété ou au contrôle d’une entreprise de radiodiffusion canadienne, qui n’est pas une entreprise en ligne, exploitée aux termes d’une licence;

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Shall G-10 carry as amended?

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Conservative

Alain Rayes Conservative Richmond—Arthabaska, QC

No.

3 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dabrusin Liberal Toronto—Danforth, ON

On division.

3 p.m.

Conservative

Alain Rayes Conservative Richmond—Arthabaska, QC

I am asking for a recorded vote, please.

3 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

We'll now go to a recorded vote.

(Amendment as amended agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

3 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

If I start talking and you can't hear me, as happened a little while ago during the vote, please hold your hand up so that I can catch it right away. It would help me greatly.

Regarding the vote, G-10 as amended carries.

Well, we've had such a blast today that the time has flown right by and we have to depart. Have a wonderful weekend.

The meeting is adjourned.