Canadian Heritage Committee on May 21st, 2024

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Go ahead, Mr. Méla.

[Philippe Méla]

Let's say the subamendment is adopted—or not. It actually doesn't matter if it's adopted or not. You can always propose another subamendment to G-1. That would be an option you can consider.

[Kevin Waugh, Conservative, Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK]

Okay.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Thank you.

Martin.

[Martin Champoux, Bloc, Drummond, QC]

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Mr. Méla, thank you for the clarification.

Madam Chair, I have a question concerning the next amendments up for consideration. I just want to make sure that we know, at the start of the discussion, the impact of passing or rejecting an amendment on subsequent amendments. That would be useful and helpful for our discussions. Thank you.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I think the Heritage official said that it's a clarification amendment, but we have to vote on the subamendment.

I don't understand your question, Martin.

[Martin Champoux, Bloc, Drummond, QC]

Madam Chair, I just asked that we be told, at the start of the discussions, whether passing or rejecting an amendment will affect the subsequent amendments up for consideration.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Future amendments to what, G-1? We're dealing with G-1 right now. I don't know if you're mentioning future amendments to G-1.

[Martin Champoux, Bloc, Drummond, QC]

I'll say it again slowly, Madam Chair. When we start to study any new amendment, I want to know at the start of the discussion whether the passage of the amendment will affect any subsequent amendments. This wasn't done at the start of the discussion on amendment G‑1. However, I would like to see this done systematically for all other amendments.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

All right. If the amendment is moved, I will reread the note after it's moved.

Is that what you want to know, Martin? I'm still not understanding what you're asking.

[Martin Champoux, Bloc, Drummond, QC]

It's okay.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

No, it's not okay. This is very important.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Okay. Mr. Méla is explaining to me what you want, Martin, because I'm still not clear. If we move a new amendment, we're going to read out for you what its impact will be on the other ones at the very beginning.

Is that what you want?

[Martin Champoux, Bloc, Drummond, QC]

Yes.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Okay. Thanks.

Mr. Lawrence.

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

Thank you.

Further to what my colleague said, which I think is an excellent suggestion, I have been in past clause-by-clauses—Mr. Méla is always doing fantastic work; we've spent many hours together—and in other committees, there's an option, which Mr. Méla can maybe comment on. In other committees, when we've had amendments that knock out latter amendments, which is exactly what we're talking about here, we've had the opportunity, or members have given us the indulgence, to talk about all the options on the table, because while you might like one and think it's great at clarifying, you might see that number three or four is better. We discuss them as a group, and then work collaboratively to pick one of the horses in the race, amend one of them or even consolidate them, as often they're very similar.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Thank you, Mr. Lawrence.

Now I'm going to call a vote on the subamendment.

Is anybody opposing the subamendment? I'm seeing no opposition, but do you want me to call a vote, or should I just go ahead and say that the subamendment is carried?

(Subamendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Now we have to go to the amended amendment that Mr. Noormohamed moved.

Mrs. Thomas.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

So....

[An hon. member]

Did we just call a vote?

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

When I'm speaking and the speaking bar is on, I cannot hear a single thing in my earpiece.

What did you say, Mr. Waugh?

[Kevin Waugh, Conservative, Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK]

I was just saying that we were going to vote on the subamendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

It was his subamendment. That's what we were voting on.

[Kevin Waugh, Conservative, Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK]

Yes, not Mr. Noormohamed's. That's fine.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I did not see any opposition to the subamendment, so it passed.

Now we're dealing with Mr. Noormohamed's amended amendment.

Mr. Noormohamed.

[Taleeb Noormohamed, Liberal, Vancouver Granville, BC]

I think it's Ms. Ashton.