Madam Chair, just quickly, you've already ruled, and now there's a debate going on with the legislative clerk that is not accurate, because these are the same rules that have applied for every other committee for every other clause-by-clause I've been part of. They have been in place for decades.
I don't understand what's happening here right now, Madam Chair, but you've already ruled. If a member wants to challenge your ruling, there should not be a debate. There should be a vote on that ruling.