Evidence of meeting #25 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was content.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Eleanor Noble  National President, Alliance of Canadian Cinema, Television and Radio Artists
Catherine Edwards  Executive Director, Canadian Association of Community Television Users and Stations
Amélie Hinse  Fédération des télévisions communautaires autonomes du Québec, Canadian Association of Community Television Users and Stations
Scott Benzie  Executive Director, Digital First Canada
Warren Sonoda  President, Directors Guild of Canada
Dave Forget  National Executive Director, Directors Guild of Canada
Margaret McGuffin  Chief Executive Officer, Music Publishers Canada
Lisa Blanchette  Director, Public Affairs and Communications, Alliance of Canadian Cinema, Television and Radio Artists
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Aimée Belmore

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

We'll go with the Liberals.

5:50 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

I have a point of order, Madam Chair.

I know that we have terrific witnesses. We've done a couple of rounds, but we're extending into the evening now, and there are a number of us that have other obligations. I'm suggesting—

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

We have the room until 6:30, so we could go one round.

Could I get a sense from the other members of the committee if you wish to go one more round? Are there any opposing one more round?

5:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

I would oppose, simply because I've another obligation that starts in two minutes.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Yes, Mr. Julian, but is there anybody else?

I'm not hearing anything, so obviously we're going to go another round.

Clerk, is there anyone opposing other than Mr. Julian?

5:55 p.m.

The Clerk

Madam Chair, I believe the table is conferring.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Let's suspend while the table confers. We're just eating up time.

5:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

I think we do have a consensus, Madam Chair. We thank the witnesses. They've done very compelling testimony.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

There is consensus that there will not be another round.

Thank you.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

I have a point of order, Madam Chair.

I think there may be consensus on the other side; I don't think there is consensus.

We would like to go into another round. Perhaps the consensus may be that we go on autopilot for the next round so that no motions or any trickery of any kind is engaged with. We did have two hours, and we do have more questions for the witnesses.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Do you want to do a show of hands?

5:55 p.m.

Bloc

Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC

Madam Chair, I have a point of order.

I just want to express my opinion.

Even if I were in favour of carrying on with the meeting to take advantage of the presence of the witnesses, I feel that, since our colleague is from a party with only one representative around this table, as is the case for the Bloc Québécois, continuing the discussions would create a malaise.

I would expect the same courtesy if I had to leave, Madam Chair.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you, Mr. Champoux.

I guess that would remove quorum. There would be one political party not here. I'm not hearing from the Conservatives.

5:55 p.m.

The Clerk

We're still suspended, Madam Chair. Do you want to resume the meeting or do you—

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Yes, I'll resume the meeting. I don't think it was suspended at all. Everyone was talking to me.

Can we go around the table, please?

Let's get a sense. We're running out of time.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

On a point of order, I think there's consensus that I go for five minutes and then we'll end the meeting.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Is everyone in agreement? Do I hear opposition to that?

5:55 p.m.

Bloc

Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC

Everyone is in agreement, Madam Chair.

5:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

We all agree on the proposal, Madam Chair.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Mr. Bittle, go ahead for five minutes.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

Thank you very much.

Mr. Benzie, when you appeared before our committee a little while ago, a couple months ago, you were asked if you had received any money from tech companies. You denied that allegation. Today when you appeared you said, “we have received some funding from our industry partners, including platforms and private industry involved in the success of digital creators.”

Was that statement untrue when you testified before us the first time, Mr. Benzie?

5:55 p.m.

Executive Director, Digital First Canada

Scott Benzie

I would have to go back and look at the Status of the Artist Act statement, but I don't believe I said that.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

I'm looking at the transcript of your testimony before.

5:55 p.m.

Executive Director, Digital First Canada

Scott Benzie

What did I say?

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

I asked you the following: “You're not receiving any funding from tech companies in regard to this organization...?”

You pushed back at me and said the following: “Is it called “volunteer” if you're actually sinking your own money into the organization?”

That's verbatim.