Evidence of meeting #3 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was sector.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Frédéric Julien  Director, Research and Development, Canadian Association for the Performing Arts
Alex Mustakas  Artistic Director and Chief Executive Officer, Drayton Entertainment
John Lewis  International Vice-President and Director of Canadian Affairs, International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees
Alica Hall  Executive Director, Nia Centre for the Arts
Martin Roy  Chief Executive Officer, Festivals and Major Events, Regroupement des événements majeurs internationaux
Scott Ford  Executive Director, SaskTel Centre
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Aimée Belmore

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Leslyn Lewis Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON

You mentioned the youth challenge fund. I had an opportunity when I was at Trillium to work on the youth action fund, which I think is just a transition of that fund. I found that the intersectionalities of dealing not only with the economic and other strains of COVID.... I'm curious about some of the intersectionalities that you've had to address in dealing with these compounded issues.

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Executive Director, Nia Centre for the Arts

Alica Hall

Absolutely.

Obviously, one serious issue that is widespread across Canada is around mental health. The struggle with precarity and not knowing where your opportunities are has really been compounded for Black artists. A lot of them were seeing significant opportunities to present their work in new spaces, exhibitions and shows. They were quite excited about some of the ways in which their careers were advancing. The closure of our spaces really meant that there's now a sense for them of whether their career is viable or whether it is possible to ever rebound. There's a real sense of loss and grief that I think we still need to work through as communities. Mental health would definitely be one.

Of course, in Toronto, there's the additional pressure of affordable housing in our city. We are at risk of losing the ability for artists to live, work and create in our city because it is simply unaffordable. There's significant pressure. I'm going to be working closely on.... We're redeveloping our neighbourhood specifically and looking at some opportunities for affordable housing there. That's a real pressure point for ensuring that the creative sector and the artists that drive it are able to stay and continue to live in the communities they're a part of.

Last, I would say it's access to working space for artists. Studio space for artists to actually work out of is expensive. There are a lot of closures. One thing we did during the pandemic was offer micro grants to over 100 artists to support them in accessing professional development, equipment and supplies to be able to produce work at home and really pivot. We called it the pivot grant. It helped to keep them working during the pandemic and helped them to access the kinds of supports at home that would help them to advance in their careers.

Those are some of the key priorities and issues that Black artists in particular are facing.

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Conservative

Leslyn Lewis Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON

Thank you.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you.

There are eight seconds left, Ms. Lewis.

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Conservative

Leslyn Lewis Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON

I was going to ask Alex a question, but that's fine. I don't think he could answer it in eight seconds.

Thank you.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you.

I'm going to go now to the Liberals—

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Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

Madam Chair, I have a a point of order. I think we skipped over a Liberal spot in the second round.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

We did not skip over a Liberal spot in the second round. There was only one spot for a Liberal for five minutes. Mr. Coteau took it.

In this round, we're going to be looking at Mr. Bittle for the Liberal round for five minutes.

Mr. Bittle.

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Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

Yes.

February 2nd, 2022 / 5 p.m.

Liberal

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

I have a point of order, Madam Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Yes, what is the point of order, Mr. Housefather?

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Liberal

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

Madam Chair, if you look at the notes in the second round, you would have had two Liberals. You would have had a five-minute round for the Conservatives followed by a five-minute round for the Liberals following the two and a half minutes for the Bloc and the NDP.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Indeed, we did do that, Mr. Housefather.

The second round was a Liberal and it was Mr. Coteau. He took five minutes. You're not allowed two separate five minutes for the Liberals, in any round.

I'm sorry, those are the rules, Mr. Housefather. You're out of order to continue.

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Liberal

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

Of course, but—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

No, you're not. I'm sorry, Mr. Housefather.

There was one round—

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Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Madam Chair, I have a point of order.

I'm sorry. I think if you actually look at the second round, I was never called upon. I'm just curious as to why that was.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Your name was not on the list of speakers. Mr. Waugh took the five minutes for the Conservatives.

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Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Yes, that's correct, but—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Before we continue—

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Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Madam Chair, I've raised a point of order and you're speaking over me right now.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

I would just like to ask the clerk to respond to your point of order, Mrs. Thomas.

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Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

That would be great. Thanks, Hedy.

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The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Aimée Belmore

Yes, thank you very much. If you'll just give me one moment, I'll pull up the rounds of questions.

In the second round of questioning it is five minutes for the Conservatives and five minutes for the Liberals, followed by the Bloc and NDP at two and a half. Then there is another round of Conservatives for five minutes and another round of Liberals for five minutes. The second round was to be Mr. Waugh, Mr. Coteau, Mr. Champoux, Mr. Julian, Mrs. Thomas and Mr. Bittle.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

I am sorry, Clerk. I have here

“first round”, “second round” and then “third round”.

5:05 p.m.

The Clerk

It carried over on the second page, when I added the additional witness.