Evidence of meeting #40 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was investigation.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Danielle Robitaille  Partner, Henein Hutchison LLP
Michel Ruest  Senior Director, Programs, Sport Canada Branch, Department of Canadian Heritage
Justin Vaive  Procedural Clerk
Isabelle Mondou  Deputy Minister, Department of Canadian Heritage

11:35 a.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Have you discussed a possible appearance before the Canadian Hockey League?

Have you reported to its senior management?

11:35 a.m.

Partner, Henein Hutchison LLP

Danielle Robitaille

I think I might need the translation. I'm very sorry.

11:35 a.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Have you reported to the Canadian Hockey League?

11:35 a.m.

Partner, Henein Hutchison LLP

Danielle Robitaille

No, I've never presented before the board of the Canadian Hockey League, though I should say that I'm aware that Hockey Canada had communication with the Canadian Hockey League about this incident.

11:35 a.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

You've been formally asked to resume your investigation in recent weeks.

Is that correct?

11:35 a.m.

Partner, Henein Hutchison LLP

11:35 a.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

We know that the investigation was suspended because the London Police Service had not completed its investigation. We were obviously waiting for the version of some players.

11:35 a.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Does the fact that these people are now concerned about it and are engaging in this investigation change your mandate?

Does that mean that it's restarted, and again, we will have to wait for the findings of the police in the just relaunched investigation before you can properly continue your investigation with the players?

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

You have 30 seconds.

11:35 a.m.

Partner, Henein Hutchison LLP

Danielle Robitaille

I can say that my investigation is moving forward. The London Police Service has not asked me stand down or pause my investigation. I am in contact with counsel for the players, and I expect to be scheduling interviews imminently.

11:35 a.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Does the fact that the victim—

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you very much. That's the end of—

11:35 a.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

—will co‑operate in this process mean that they will co‑operate in your investigation as well?

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Monsieur Lemire, that's the end of your time, please. Thank you.

I would like to once again repeat that the questions and answers be as concise as possible because we can't keep going over time.

All right, now we have Peter Julian for the NDP.

You have six minutes, Peter.

July 26th, 2022 / 11:40 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Madame Robitaille. We certainly do appreciate that the questions that we're asking you are very pointed and that this does put you in, sometimes, an awkward position.

I'd like to come back to your testimony about the day of June 19. You stated that in the morning you were speaking with Hockey Canada and that you said at that time in the morning that this should be reported to the police. It is allegations of serious criminal acts, as we all understand.

Did you communicate that in the morning, that it should be reported to the police immediately?

11:40 a.m.

Partner, Henein Hutchison LLP

Danielle Robitaille

I did communicate it to Mr. Glen McCurdie, and I should say that there was no resistance from Mr. McCurdie in that phone call regarding that legal advice. What he advised me of was that he needed to connect with senior leadership on that question before acting on my advice.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

You may be aware of the testimony that Hockey Canada provided to us last month stating that they reported it to the police between 6 p.m. and 7 p.m. that evening.

Are you aware of what happened between the morning when you were offering the advice that it should be reported immediately and Hockey Canada's finally reporting it to the police in the evening?

11:40 a.m.

Partner, Henein Hutchison LLP

Danielle Robitaille

All I can say is that I am aware that Mr. McCurdie did connect with his colleagues in senior leadership positions at Hockey Canada in that time. In terms of what else occurred internally at Hockey Canada, I cannot assist the committee.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Are you aware of any communications between Hockey Canada and the London police after June 19 and up until February 7, 2019, when the police closed their investigation?

11:40 a.m.

Partner, Henein Hutchison LLP

Danielle Robitaille

I can advise the members of the committee that I was in somewhat regular contact, as an independent investigator, with the London police regarding the state of the criminal investigation because I was quite anxious to push my investigation forward and wanted to know when they were concluded, so I had contact with the detective leading the investigation.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

On a regular basis.... Is that every few weeks, every month?

11:40 a.m.

Partner, Henein Hutchison LLP

Danielle Robitaille

It took some time. Initially, I know, there were vacation issues in the summertime at the London Police Service that impacted their timeline. I can't, sitting here, recall exactly the intervals of my check-ins with the detective, but I would say they were regular.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

And Hockey Canada was also speaking with the London police?

11:40 a.m.

Partner, Henein Hutchison LLP

Danielle Robitaille

I'm not sure. I was conducting my independent investigation.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Okay, thank you.

You mentioned that you had interviews with coaches and staff. How many were interviewed?