Evidence of meeting #41 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was players.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Justin Vaive  Procedural Clerk
Glen McCurdie  As an Individual
Scott Smith  President and Chief Operating Officer, Hockey Canada
Brian Cairo  Chief Financial Officer, Hockey Canada
Dan MacKenzie  President, Canadian Hockey League
Gilles Courteau  Commissioner, Ligue de Hockey Junior Majeur du Québec
David Branch  Commissioner, Ontario Hockey League
Dave Andrews  Chair, Hockey Canada Foundation, Hockey Canada
Tom Renney  Chief Executive Officer (Retired), Hockey Canada
Ron Robison  Commissioner, Western Hockey League
Barry F. Lorenzetti  Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, BFL Canada

1:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Give a very short answer.

1:35 p.m.

President and Chief Operating Officer, Hockey Canada

Scott Smith

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I believe we did act on the incidents and we acted on the recommendations. We will continue to improve them and even evolve them past what those recommendations were from September 2018.

1:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you.

I now go to Mr. Lemire for two and a half minutes.

1:35 p.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Mr. Courteau, will the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League become a signatory to the Office of the Integrity Commissioner and respect the Universal Code of Conduct to Prevent and Address Maltreatment in Sport?

1:35 p.m.

Commissioner, Ligue de Hockey Junior Majeur du Québec

Gilles Courteau

At the last owners' meeting, a resolution was passed to that effect.

1:35 p.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

It's not clear to me which Canadian hockey leagues are governed by or part of Hockey Canada. Sometimes your organization is considered a not‑for‑profit organization and sometimes it's not. Evidence suggests that it wasn't required to become a signatory with the OSIC.

You mentioned the first incident, the one in Victoriaville, I believe. A second incident involving the Gatineau Olympiques also occurred.

In light of the information you have today and the mea culpa made by everyone present, do you intend to reopen the investigation and ask yourself more questions about what happened?

According to the Quebec City police, this investigation could be reopened.

1:35 p.m.

Commissioner, Ligue de Hockey Junior Majeur du Québec

Gilles Courteau

There was a previous investigation into this matter. However, if the police service expresses interest in reopening this investigation, we will certainly co‑operate with the investigation.

1:35 p.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

You have previously stated that there has never been a case of sexual assault between players in the last 45 years.

Mr. Branch had previously alluded to this.

Do you stand by that statement?

1:35 p.m.

Commissioner, Ligue de Hockey Junior Majeur du Québec

Gilles Courteau

That there has never been a sexual assault between players?

1:35 p.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

I'm talking about sexual assaults involving players in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League.

1:35 p.m.

Commissioner, Ligue de Hockey Junior Majeur du Québec

Gilles Courteau

To our knowledge, the sexual assaults that have been reported have been addressed.

For those that are not reported, unfortunately it's not possible to properly address them.

1:35 p.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Hockey Canada cannot impose anything on its partners, because they are members of a partnership relationship.

We know that players are “burrows”, to use the expression that was mentioned.

Will you maintain your business relationships?

What impact will there be on money transfers until you comply with the requirements of the OSIC and the Universal Code of Conduct?

Do you know if there will be any impact on money transfers?

1:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

You have 30 seconds.

1:35 p.m.

Commissioner, Ligue de Hockey Junior Majeur du Québec

Gilles Courteau

We will await the various conclusions of this committee regarding the next steps for Hockey Canada. We will then take the time to share this information with our respective owners so that they can make the best decision possible.

1:35 p.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

What impact could the National Hockey League investigation have on the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League?

What will making these revelations public change for the future of your league?

1:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

You have two seconds to answer, please. I will allow you two seconds.

1:35 p.m.

Commissioner, Ligue de Hockey Junior Majeur du Québec

Gilles Courteau

We will co‑operate with any investigation that may be undertaken.

1:35 p.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Thank you, Mr. Courteau.

1:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you.

We now go to Peter Julian for the NDP for two and half minutes.

1:35 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

A big part of the culture of silence is when victims are silenced. Is Hockey Canada prepared to release from non-disclosure agreements any victim who chooses to come forward and speak about their experience?

1:40 p.m.

President and Chief Operating Officer, Hockey Canada

Scott Smith

I think we got some advice in the last month about the evolution of the minutes of settlements or NDAs. For victims who will come forward, first and foremost, we want to make sure they have the confidence in our independent investigation. We will continue to work to document their wishes. If they wish to eliminate those, unless there is a legal reason not to that I'm not aware of, I'm not sure why we wouldn't. Our priority is to support the victims.

1:40 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Madam Chair, we have asked for answers today. We got some, but we didn't get answers to all of our questions.

It must be said that the public has very clearly lost confidence in Hockey Canada. It has also lost confidence in the leadership of Hockey Canada. So it's obvious, I think, that there has to be new leadership, which will be able to deal with the total failure that we've seen in the institutions of Hockey Canada in terms of protecting the public, but also the athletes. We see the same problem at Sport Canada. There is a crisis, and there really needs to be change.

If these changes are made, then measures can be put in place that will truly protect the victims, give them a voice, and reassure Canadians, for whom hockey is so important. These institutions must protect them.

I think we should continue our study. These sessions are extremely important.

Madam Chair, I do want to say that I believe Hockey Canada has failed at its task to protect athletes who are victims—

1:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

You have 15 seconds.

1:40 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

—to protect the public who are victims. Sport Canada has also failed at its task. Because of those reasons, we need to continue our study and continue our work.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

1:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you, Peter.

I will now go to the Conservatives for five minutes, please. I don't have a name.