Evidence of meeting #46 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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2:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Then Ms. Vandenbeld would be the first person. I'm sorry. I am not in the room and I have to depend on those who are in the room to tell me.
Clerk, do you have a list?
2:20 p.m.
The Clerk
Dr. Fry, Ms. Vandenbeld is correct, I wasn't able to see everyone's hands while I was also trying to type out the motion. The order I do have is Mrs. Thomas, who is currently speaking, Mr. Nater, Ms. Lantsman, Mr. Waugh, Monsieur Champoux, Ms. Saks and Ms. Vandenbeld.
2:25 p.m.
Liberal
Anita Vandenbeld Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON
Madam Chair, I did put up my hand. I know that some others in the room did see me. I don't know if that makes a difference, but I do believe I should be further up the list than what was just read out.
2:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
I'm afraid that I have to go by the clerk's list because she is in the room and she obviously did not see your hand, Ms. Vandenbeld. I did not see Mr. Waugh's hand up earlier as well. I saw Mr. Nater, Mr. Champoux and Mr. Julian. That was how I saw the hands, but they were all in the virtual chat so I have no idea who was in the room.
If the clerk said she did not see your hand, I cannot go against that and argue that debate, unless people in the room wanted to speak up to say they saw your hand up very early.
Is there anybody in the room who wishes to say that they saw Ms. Vandenbeld's hand up immediately when the motion was read?
2:25 p.m.
Liberal
Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC
I did, Madam Chair. Her hand certainly was up right away.
2:25 p.m.
Liberal
2:25 p.m.
Liberal
2:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
All right. I will then move to put Ms. Vandenbeld further up the list. I saw Mr. Nater. I did not see Ms. Lantsman. I saw Mr. Nater and I also saw Mr. Champoux and Mr. Julian, so I will put Mr. Nater, Mr. Champoux, Mr. Julian and Ms. Vandenbeld in that order.
2:25 p.m.
Conservative
2:25 p.m.
Conservative
John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON
I think we started picking names out of the air in terms of who goes where and when and how and in what order.
2:25 p.m.
Liberal
2:25 p.m.
Conservative
John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON
Madam Chair, with respect, we do have a clerk who over the last six months in particular has done an impressive amount of work on behalf of this committee including, at times, working late into the evening on amendments and early in the morning on amendments. I have a great deal of respect for our clerk and I think this committee has a great deal of respect for our clerk. She has maintained a speakers list and I think it is incumbent on us—especially in a situation where we have some online, some in the room—to have respect for our clerk who has the eye of the room, but also has the eye of the screen. So my—
2:25 p.m.
Conservative
John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON
—my suggestion is that we maintain the list that is maintained by the clerk, and that ought to be the speaking order.
2:25 p.m.
Liberal
2:25 p.m.
Liberal
Anita Vandenbeld Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON
Yes, Madam Chair, I'll withdraw, although I will note there is a large computer screen between me and the clerk. I'll withdraw, I'll put it at whatever point the clerk says.
2:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Thank you very much for your generosity, Ms. Vandenbeld.
Obviously, Mrs. Thomas wishes to keep the floor.
Mrs. Thomas, please, I have heard now many, many times the idea of the $500,000 that has been given by the CRTC, so I don't want to hear that again, please. Let's try not to be redundant and let's try not to be repetitive. If you have new points to make, that would be fine; otherwise, I'm going to have to say that you are filibustering.