Evidence of meeting #55 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was definition.
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NDP
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Peter, Anthony had his hand up earlier.
I would like to hear him and then you. Thank you.
Anthony, go ahead.
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Liberal
Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Not being in the room, I may be missing out on the fun of discussing how to amend. I think this would be handled by adding in BQ-1 the words “in both the non-profit and for-profit sectors” after the word “Canada” in the second line of the amendment. I think that would resolve adding in what is missing from BQ-1 that is in NDP-3.
If it is okay with Mr. Julian and Mr. Champoux, I would propose to amend BQ-1 by adding, after “Canada”, “in both the non-profit and for-profit sectors”. Then it would continue with “including independent local ones.”
12:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Thank you.
Peter, before I go to you, we should discuss Anthony's motion.
Is there any discussion?
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The Clerk
I have Mr. Champoux and Ms. Gladu.
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Bloc
Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC
Thank you, Madam Chair.
I think that's entirely reasonable. In fact, it's in line with the discussions we had here in the room a few minutes ago. That was the conclusion we came to. So I think all parties support this subamendment.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
This tells me, Mr. Champoux, that great minds think alike, whether they're in the room or not.
Peter, did you want to say anything?
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC
I just wanted to say that it's a little freaky that Mr. Housefather read our minds remotely.
Yes, this is absolutely the way to go, with a subamendment to the BQ amendment.
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Liberal
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The Clerk
There is Ms. Gladu as well, Dr. Fry.
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Conservative
Marilyn Gladu Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON
No problem.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
We very much support adding the not-for-profits in here. We heard clearly from community radio stations across the country and indigenous radio stations that they felt they were going to be excluded otherwise.
I very much support the amendment.
Thanks to the team for working together on that.
12:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Thank you.
What we have is an amendment that, after “news businesses in Canada”, is going to read “in both the non-profit and for-profit sectors”, and then continue with “including independent local ones.”
Is there any opposition to this amendment?
Yes, Mr. Méla.
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Legislative Clerk
I think Mr. Julian had the same idea.
We should vote on the subamendment first and then the amendment, as amended, after.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Yes. That is what I am going to do right now, Mr. Méla.
I'm asking if there is anybody opposed, because we don't need to call a vote if it's unanimous, and we can move to the amended motion.
Is anyone in the room opposed?
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The Clerk
I'm not seeing any opposition.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
All right.
Hearing no opposition, I say the subamendment carries.
(Subamendment agreed to)
Now I'm going to ask you to vote on the amendment as amended.
Do you need me to read it again, or do you all know what it says?
Are there any objections?
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The Clerk
I'm not seeing any objection.
(Amendment as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
The motion passes unanimously. Thank you.
If BQ-1 carries, then NDP-3, PV-1, and CPC-4 cannot be moved. We shall move past those.
Shall clause 4 carry, as amended?
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The Clerk
I hear voices on both sides, Dr. Fry.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
All right, let's call a vote.
(Clause 4 as amended agreed to: yeas 10; nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Shall clause 5 carry? Is there any opposition?
Clause 5 is carried.
On clause 6—
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The Clerk
I'm terribly sorry. I was noting something down, and Mrs. Thomas had her hand up on clause 5.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
All right. As you know, clause 5 has not been amended, or there have been no amendments proposed.
Go ahead, Mrs. Thomas.
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Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
I'm sorry. With regard to clause 5, my hand was up, and it wasn't acknowledged, concerning whether or not it passes.
We would say no, Chair.