Evidence of meeting #56 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was exemption.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Thomas Owen Ripley  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Cultural Affairs, Department of Canadian Heritage
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk

2:35 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

I'm sorry; I don't believe that's true.

2:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

You're challenging me now, but I'm—

2:35 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

2:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Shame on you.

2:35 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

2:35 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

That is not true.

2:35 p.m.

Conservative

Marilyn Gladu Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

Chair, it's because they both change line 11.

2:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

I have the note here, so I am going to refer to Mr. Méla.

We're on NDP-6. I have it here on the sheet that if it is adopted, then NDP-7 can't be moved. We're being challenged on that. Is that right?

2:35 p.m.

Liberal

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

May I ask for a brief recess?

2:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Yes, we can have a brief recess.

2:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

We will come back now.

Go ahead, Mr. Julian.

2:35 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

After a hurried but effective huddle with some of my colleagues Mr. Champoux, Mr. Bittle and Mr. Housefather—thank you very much, Mr. Housefather—I will withdraw NDP-6 and will add a subamendment to NDP-7 to include the language that is in NDP-6.

If it was the other way around, we would be bringing the subamendment forward, but because of the order in which it was submitted, we'll withdraw NDP-6 and then subamend NDP-7.

2:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Okay, we'll move to NDP-7.

2:35 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

I'd like to offer a subamendment.

2:35 p.m.

Liberal

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

You have to have somebody else do it. I'd be happy to do it.

2:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

We have Mr. Housefather on a subamendment to NDP-7.

2:35 p.m.

Liberal

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

I'll give the floor right back to Mr. Julian, but I will amend NDP-7 to add the language from NDP-6 at the beginning of the clause where NDP-7 would be. Subparagraph 11(1)(a)(vi) would now be: “they involve a range of news outlets in both the non-profit and for-profit sectors and were entered into with news businesses that reflect a diversity of business models".

2:40 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

I'm sorry; can you say that again?

2:40 p.m.

Liberal

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

Yes. I'm introducing the words you had before. It would now say, “they involve a range of outlets in both in the non-profit and for-profit sectors that reflect the diversity of business models”.

Would you like me to repeat it?

2:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

I just want to say, because we have Mr. Morrice here, that if NDP-7 is adopted, then PV-2 cannot be moved due to the line conflict.

2:40 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

I'm sorry; can you say that again?

2:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

If NDP-7 is adopted.... We're dealing with the subamendment now. We'll finish the subamendment. I just want to flag that PV-2 could not be moved due to a line conflict if NDP-7 is in fact adopted.

Is it okay with everyone if we hear from Mr. Morrice first, before the amendment, or...?

We're not there yet. Okay. We'll do the subamendment, then.

Go ahead, Mr. Julian.

2:40 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

I thought that Mr. Housefather's subamendment was brilliant. I would like to thank him for that.

2:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

All right.

Is there any other discussion on the subamendment to NDP-7?

Seeing none, can I call for the vote on the subamendment?

We'll get the legislative clerk, Mr. Méla, to go through the subamendment.

2:40 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Philippe Méla

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Just to make sure I have it properly, just before the text of NDP-7, we would add, “ (vi) they involve a range of news outlets in both the non-profit and for-profit sectors and”, and then it continues.