Evidence of meeting #93 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cbc.
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12:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
I'm sorry, but I did not understand your points. I'm sorry.
Go ahead, Ms. Thomas, and be mindful that we're speaking to the subamendment and not the main motion. That's all I'm reminding you. Keep that in mind. Remember that.
12:20 p.m.
Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
Madam Chair, I do feel a bit berated by you, and so I am confused. I was speaking specifically about bringing Ms. Catherine Tait, the head of the CBC, to this committee and why that is important, and yet I feel corrected by you, that I'm somehow not speaking to the subamendment, so can you please clarify for me how I am in the wrong?
12:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
I did not say you were in the wrong, Ms. Thomas. I'm asking you to focus, because you made these comments when you spoke to your main motion many times, and so I didn't know where you were going with them.
12:20 p.m.
Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
Generally when someone is interrupted and told to stay focused, it means that they're somehow not focused—
12:20 p.m.
Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
—so I'm hoping that you can help me understand so that I can respect you, Chair.
12:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Ms. Thomas, please, with respect for the committee, can you continue? Just remember to focus on the subamendment. Thank you very much.
12:20 p.m.
Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
Thank you, Chair.
Again, you're issuing a correction, asking me to focus on the subamendment, so I'm curious as to where I was going wrong and how I might better be able to focus on the subamendment, which is to bring Ms. Tait to this committee.
12:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
It would be up to you to decide how to do that.
Focus, Ms. Thomas. I was just listening to you continue the same statements you made when you were speaking to the main motion, and I wondered if you wanted to speak to the subamendments specifically, which are, as you can see, to invite the president for two hours, within seven days of the motion being adopted and to add, to appear separately, Jack Nagler and George Achi to address the CBC's position on journalistic standards and practices.
Those are the new things that have been added. Meta has been added as well. If you want to speak to those issues, that's fine, but I just think one can continue to reiterate the same points over and over. Let's be mindful of the fact that we need to move on in this committee and be efficient.
Thank you, Ms. Thomas. Would you speak to the subamendment? Begin your arguments. Thank you.
12:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Ms. Thomas, I really don't want to engage in a debate with you. Would you continue your debate on the subamendment? Thank you.
12:20 p.m.
Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
I would love to discuss the subamendment. I just want to make sure, though. The subamendment doesn't say anything about Meta or Google being included, and you just stated that it did, so I just want to make sure that we're clear as to what the subamendment is.
12:20 p.m.
Liberal
12:20 p.m.
Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
Yes, Madam Chair, I do. That's the amendment. It's not the subamendment.
12:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Now I'm looking at the subamendment where Mr. Waugh in fact explained that he did in fact want Rachel Curran to come to speak about Meta. It did say that.
12:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
That's why I allowed it. He did continue with that. I had thought he had removed it completely and he pointed out to me that in his next bullet, he did not.
Now, Ms. Thomas, I really do not wish to indulge in debate with you. You have the floor. Please speak to the subamendment.
Thank you.
12:20 p.m.
Conservative
12:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Mrs. Thomas, you do wish to debate me and I don't wish to debate you anymore. I've ruled that you should continue to speak. You have the floor. Please speak to the subamendment.
Thank you very much.
12:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Mrs. Thomas, please speak or I will remove you from the floor and give it to someone else.
12:20 p.m.
Conservative
12:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Mrs. Thomas, please speak to the subamendment and be respectful of everyone in this room who wants to move on here.
Thank you.
12:20 p.m.
Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
For the benefit of those who might be watching this committee, I could not have been more on point with the subamendment. The subamendment adds Ms. Catherine Tait into the amended version, and I was speaking exactly about Catherine Tait, as the head of the CBC, coming to this committee.
